do you have gene studies to back up that claim?

@Boniface Me?

yeah, that these people are ulster scots and ulster scots are not irish

Sure

Let’s start with the presidents

Out of the 22 presidents

17 have ulster scot blood

While

Theodore Roosevelt was the first president with any actual Irish blood

Infact, there has only been one fully blooded Irish president

JFK

But

The main reason that so many have ulster scot blood is because practically ALL the early Irish

Were of the protestant Ulster Scot people

@Boniface And presidents like Nixon had ancestors who were apparently more mixed Irish

I.e

Already Anglo-Irish mutts

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Americans_of_Irish_descent#

You can see the list for yourself

Ulster Scots are counted in as Irish

Simply because they lived in Ireland

Infact

Most of the prominent ”Irish”

Aren’t even Irish

As is noted here:
https://hbdchick.wordpress.com/2015/03/17/whats-in-a-name/

Note that the author is Irish

But as is noted:

interesting

”[W]henever you hear about some famous “irish” person, like a scientist or an author, they’re more than likely to have anglo-irish or scots-irish ancestry.

for instance, if you look at this list on wikipedia of famous “irish” scientists (*chuckle*), the vast majority are or were either of scots-irish, old english, or anglo-irish background, not native irish. one or two were even partly or fully of some other ethnic background(s) (i.e. french huguenot and sephardic jewish). i can pick out only seven who are likely candidates for having a (mostly) native irish background: louis brennan, pádraig de brún, nicholas callan, aeneas coffey, richard kirwan (“one of the last supporters of the theory of phlogiston”), william dargan, and john philip holland — and i’m not so sure about dargan or holland (both of those surnames could be either british or irish). so that’s five to seven native irish out of a list of forty “irish”, and i bet most of you have never heard of any of them”

@Boniface We see the same pattern with Nobel Prize laureats, the great majority aren’t actually pure Irish

Interesting. I never knew that.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/546920804244520961/662708160834043934/ENXHbtLWoAEh0ow.png

irish is a umbrella

celtic might be a better term

@neeber No

We already have good terms

And we see large differences between the Catholic and Protestant ”Irish” aswell

Since the protestants are more nordic derived

We see some interesting phenotypical differences

i am aware