Hi, I am a race realist, but a cultural nationalist as opposed to an ethnic one. Is anyone here willing to offer a case for/debate me on ethnic nationalism?

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I brought this up before but

Has JF ever brought up the fact that TPUSA and conservatives like him are not against ethnic identitarianism, just only whites doing it?

They actively hold black leadership conferences FFS, and they support Israel explicitly as a jewish nation

They are not against ethnic identitarianism, they just hate white people

it probably has been mentioned before, but i can't point to a specific example. the double standard is so obvious and in-your-face, that i would not be surprised if even the average normie noticed it.

But I don't hear it said, which is weird

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it's like this thing everyone knows

HAs anyone asked it to their face?

idk, but that'd be a great question to ask

Personally I'm not an ethno nationalist. And I don't even necessarily think mass immigration is a bad thing. As long as the citizens of the country want it.

My main opposition to mass immigration is that it seems to be very unpopular in most countries across the west but its shoved down people's throats against their will.

If the US was to split in half, with one half being white nationalist and one half having open borders I wouldn't consider that immoral.

Personally most of my friends are either asian immigrants or refugees and I get along with them really great and I'm happy for them to be here and live in my country. I don't feel like I would be happier if they were white. So I don't really feel the need for a white only society but if a country was mostly white and wanted to remain mostly white I don't see that as a problem or a bad thing whatsoever.

I wouldn’t consider a country wanting millions of people to replace them as immoral

I would see it as dumb

But I would respect their wishes

that's fair

right

and on the other hand the wishes of people who don't want that should be respected as well

but right now it seems like everyone's getting mass immigration whether they like it or not

Exactly

@Boniface I'm not ethnonationalist in principle, I just fail to see how you keep a culture going without being ethnonationalist because I also know races act differently based on biology

I would be really happy if the USA split in half and I lived in a white ethnostate

There's also the problem of regression to the mean

So even the kids of those black people who respect western European values and won't try to change it will act differnetly

I am a ethnic nationalist by principle, because I do believe that ethnic groups or racial groups should have their own land. I want to live with my own people, I want to have borders between us and different people.

A place where a ethnic group is the majority and a state that will act to their interests

A ethnostate is simply a nation state, we just disagree on the definition of nation

The enlightenment said every ethnic group should have its own state with its own borders

@GeeGee right but some white people for whatever reason want to live with black people even if they don't respect western european values, so I'm saying they can go live in their own country and do their own shit I guess. lol

This is the principle of sovereignty and self determination

I might be biased on this issue because the state of my people got wiped off the map by the british (I'm an Acadian) so the idea of having a state for my own ethnic group is basically just not going to happen.

That’s understandable and that’s how the world works. Every civilization and nation state is built on blood, it sucks but my words won’t change reality

I guess, in principle, I'd be fine with a very controlled minority of people who aren't of the race. Like in Japan.

I'd say Israel, but their own retardation is biting them in the ass and they're losing their country too

lol

yeah, long term I don't really think I know the best solution but I definitely think populations that don't want mass immigration shouldn't be forced to have mass immigration.

What would be nice would be to have different countries trying to figure out the best way to deal with their own problems instead of having a top down globalist approach of trying to force the same model on all countries