that's fair

right

and on the other hand the wishes of people who don't want that should be respected as well

but right now it seems like everyone's getting mass immigration whether they like it or not

Exactly

@Boniface I'm not ethnonationalist in principle, I just fail to see how you keep a culture going without being ethnonationalist because I also know races act differently based on biology

I would be really happy if the USA split in half and I lived in a white ethnostate

There's also the problem of regression to the mean

So even the kids of those black people who respect western European values and won't try to change it will act differnetly

I am a ethnic nationalist by principle, because I do believe that ethnic groups or racial groups should have their own land. I want to live with my own people, I want to have borders between us and different people.

A place where a ethnic group is the majority and a state that will act to their interests

A ethnostate is simply a nation state, we just disagree on the definition of nation

The enlightenment said every ethnic group should have its own state with its own borders

@GeeGee right but some white people for whatever reason want to live with black people even if they don't respect western european values, so I'm saying they can go live in their own country and do their own shit I guess. lol

This is the principle of sovereignty and self determination

I might be biased on this issue because the state of my people got wiped off the map by the british (I'm an Acadian) so the idea of having a state for my own ethnic group is basically just not going to happen.

That’s understandable and that’s how the world works. Every civilization and nation state is built on blood, it sucks but my words won’t change reality

I guess, in principle, I'd be fine with a very controlled minority of people who aren't of the race. Like in Japan.

I'd say Israel, but their own retardation is biting them in the ass and they're losing their country too

lol

yeah, long term I don't really think I know the best solution but I definitely think populations that don't want mass immigration shouldn't be forced to have mass immigration.

What would be nice would be to have different countries trying to figure out the best way to deal with their own problems instead of having a top down globalist approach of trying to force the same model on all countries

I like human biodiversity I think its amazing to have different countries with different cultures and shit

i'm not sure any population truly wants mass immigration. anywhere. rich, poor, north, south, east, west

so shut it all down

lol

mass immigration of this scale that is really new territory in the history of human existence

it's an experiment

a foolish, needless one at that

yeah, I feel bad for europe

it's colonization, and it without the benefit of it being imperial or even properly referred to as such

like, in the US, I get some people don't want south american in there but I feel like over time they might start to assimilate whereas with europe it seems like european values and islam are like oil and water

mmm, it all depends on genes

really?

of course

I mean, south americans have some spanish and portugese in them. many of them are christian and speak european languages

doesn't matter

@Str3tch Rich epople want mass immigration, just so long as NIMBY, cause then they get their cheap labour

right

being christian is not enough

Even if America became a shithole third world nation, I bet you anything there'd be those rich lily-white communes where the only hispanics who show up are the maids