Message from @johny1846
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And don’t change
At least
no.
assumption
From the human perspective
milankovitch cycles
Co2 levels thought out history created drastic change in the temperature
no
We can see this after the time period you talked about
it was warm in the 1940s
when CO2 was low
it was cold in the 60's-70's
when CO2 was high
except the evidence of these periods is being changed or removed
Okay so in a couple years In the 1940s it was warm and in the 70s it was slightly colder so that means the green house effect isn’t real.
You are the one cherry picking data
rubbish
go look for yourself
if you can find an untainted source
there are emails between climate scientists talking about how problematic the 70's cold period is
We can see historical records of how much change the co2 levels change from plants and volcanoes see the drastic change in temperature and see how it changed.
and how they can massage the data to better fit the trend they want to show
Okay I don’t care about a couple scientist somewhere massaging data
I do, when they control the political landscape it's dangerous
I mean I don’t care if they with the broader scope of if something is true or not.
you never adequately explained how high CO2 levels didn't lead to ever increasing temps
Carboniferous period had CO2 levels ~1500ppm and yet temp was 3~12 degrees higher
why did the high temps not lead to more CO2 and the runaway effect?
it doesn't matter how much time anything has to adapt, your contention is that CO2 produces a temp increase
why did this not occurr during the carboniferous and other high CO2 periods?
Why didn’t it lead to a runaway effect? Because plants grew because of higher co2 levels and took co2 out of the air
you think plants can grow faster than the sun can input energy into the atmosphere?
I don't
for plants to stop a net increase in temp they wouuld have to lock away CO2 at an alarming rate
especially at ~1500ppm
What do you mean input energy into a system? co2 levels change equilibriums so temps raise it doesn’t keep trapping energy for ever
So energy can’t leave
uuhhhh, isn't that what you call the greenhouse effect?
if 400ppm co2 will cause a catastrophic rate of temp increase, what rate of temp increase do you think 1500ppm would produce?
how would plants even catch up?
Catch up with what