Message from @johny1846

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2019-10-25 17:07:23 UTC  

Sure

2019-10-25 17:07:44 UTC  

why doesn't the other 97% of that flux affect the climate?

2019-10-25 17:07:54 UTC  

You are saying humans create 3% this number is really small so how can it create an increase in co2

2019-10-25 17:08:04 UTC  

But I’m saying

2019-10-25 17:08:09 UTC  

In the bucket case

2019-10-25 17:08:40 UTC  

why does the natural co2 flux not have a greater effect than human produced co2?

2019-10-25 17:08:45 UTC  

If the system is at equilibrium and you increase the flow by just 3% water in the bucket will increase

2019-10-25 17:08:57 UTC  

stop with the analogies

2019-10-25 17:09:06 UTC  

you are bad at them

2019-10-25 17:11:54 UTC  

Why is it a bad analogy it shows such a small percentage of 3 can fuck over an equilibrium system. Systems in the environment remove co2 and add co2 then humans come along then add 3% more carbon dioxide. Well guess what your equilibrium system is fucked. The water is going to rise. Just like we see co2 concentrations rise in the environment

2019-10-25 17:13:59 UTC  

It’s actually a great analogy in my opinion

2019-10-25 17:15:09 UTC  

if you can't accept that a bucket filled with water is a bad analogy for the Earth's atmosphere then you are either willfully ignorant or intellectually dishonest. I have no time for either.

2019-10-25 17:15:17 UTC  

No

2019-10-25 17:16:05 UTC  

I am not saying it’s the same as the earth atmosphere I am disputing your claim that is basically humans create 3% this number is small why would it effect the system as a whole

2019-10-25 17:16:27 UTC  

It’s kind of a beautiful analogy

2019-10-25 17:16:56 UTC  

it's not my claim that human produced co2 is 3% of annual flux. it is fact.

2019-10-25 17:17:04 UTC  

Yes

2019-10-25 17:17:15 UTC  

But you are saying this number is insignificant right?

2019-10-25 17:18:00 UTC  

compared to the 97% of natural annual flux. yes.

2019-10-25 17:18:07 UTC  

how is this hard?

2019-10-25 17:18:11 UTC  

Okay just like the bucket

2019-10-25 17:18:22 UTC  

3% flow of water increase seems insignificant

2019-10-25 17:18:29 UTC  

But

2019-10-25 17:18:39 UTC  

No. Stop. I can't take anymore buckets

2019-10-25 17:18:46 UTC  

In an equilibrium system 3% increase can fuck it over

2019-10-25 17:19:59 UTC  

what about the 97%?

2019-10-25 17:20:39 UTC  

The 97% is just flows out the hole.

2019-10-25 17:20:48 UTC  

do you understand what "annual flux" is?

2019-10-25 17:20:53 UTC  

Yup

2019-10-25 17:21:19 UTC  

Okay

2019-10-25 17:22:21 UTC  

So in the bucket situation you think increasing the input flow by 3% will cause nothing to happen because it’s an insignificant number? @oojimaflip

2019-10-25 17:22:46 UTC  

it's not a "bucket situation"

2019-10-25 17:22:51 UTC  

jeez

2019-10-25 17:22:54 UTC  

No answer the question

2019-10-25 17:22:56 UTC  

Will it

2019-10-25 17:22:59 UTC  

Or will it not

2019-10-25 17:23:18 UTC  

fuck the bucket. I'm done.

2019-10-25 17:23:26 UTC  

don't ping me again

2019-10-25 17:23:36 UTC  

Dude it’s just a simple hypothetical

2019-10-25 17:34:15 UTC  

if you really want to avoid a catastrophe; go talk to China and India, when they agree to forego their own industrial revolution in order to lower their co2 emissions to "sustainable" rates, then we can talk about *what more the west should do.*

2019-10-25 17:36:26 UTC  

since you haven't adequately answered any of my questions I'm going to refuse to entertain any of your naiive hypotheticals.