Message from @johny1846

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2019-10-25 16:12:12 UTC  

even with their worst case scenario

2019-10-25 16:12:15 UTC  

if we do nothing

2019-10-25 16:12:18 UTC  

its really not that bad

2019-10-25 16:13:26 UTC  

I still dispute that human produced co2 has a statistically significant impact on Earth's climate

2019-10-25 17:03:52 UTC  

@oojimaflip let’s say you have a bucket with a hole in the bottom. You are putting water in and water comes out. The water goes up to almost the lid. This bucket is at an equilibrium same amount of water leaves as enters . Then you increase the water flow my 3% what happens

2019-10-25 17:06:10 UTC  

Earth's atmosphere is not equatable to a bucket with water in it. What lengths will you go to with these false analogies?

2019-10-25 17:06:22 UTC  

No

2019-10-25 17:06:24 UTC  

I’m saying

2019-10-25 17:06:34 UTC  

You're trying every tactic you can in desperation

2019-10-25 17:06:35 UTC  

You are saying what what ever percent of carbon dioxide

2019-10-25 17:06:44 UTC  

Humans create is small

2019-10-25 17:06:49 UTC  

Right?

2019-10-25 17:06:57 UTC  

Compared to the whole ecosystem

2019-10-25 17:07:16 UTC  

currently it is 3% of the annual flux

2019-10-25 17:07:23 UTC  

Sure

2019-10-25 17:07:44 UTC  

why doesn't the other 97% of that flux affect the climate?

2019-10-25 17:07:54 UTC  

You are saying humans create 3% this number is really small so how can it create an increase in co2

2019-10-25 17:08:04 UTC  

But I’m saying

2019-10-25 17:08:09 UTC  

In the bucket case

2019-10-25 17:08:40 UTC  

why does the natural co2 flux not have a greater effect than human produced co2?

2019-10-25 17:08:45 UTC  

If the system is at equilibrium and you increase the flow by just 3% water in the bucket will increase

2019-10-25 17:08:57 UTC  

stop with the analogies

2019-10-25 17:09:06 UTC  

you are bad at them

2019-10-25 17:11:54 UTC  

Why is it a bad analogy it shows such a small percentage of 3 can fuck over an equilibrium system. Systems in the environment remove co2 and add co2 then humans come along then add 3% more carbon dioxide. Well guess what your equilibrium system is fucked. The water is going to rise. Just like we see co2 concentrations rise in the environment

2019-10-25 17:13:59 UTC  

It’s actually a great analogy in my opinion

2019-10-25 17:15:09 UTC  

if you can't accept that a bucket filled with water is a bad analogy for the Earth's atmosphere then you are either willfully ignorant or intellectually dishonest. I have no time for either.

2019-10-25 17:15:17 UTC  

No

2019-10-25 17:16:05 UTC  

I am not saying it’s the same as the earth atmosphere I am disputing your claim that is basically humans create 3% this number is small why would it effect the system as a whole

2019-10-25 17:16:27 UTC  

It’s kind of a beautiful analogy

2019-10-25 17:16:56 UTC  

it's not my claim that human produced co2 is 3% of annual flux. it is fact.

2019-10-25 17:17:04 UTC  

Yes

2019-10-25 17:17:15 UTC  

But you are saying this number is insignificant right?

2019-10-25 17:18:00 UTC  

compared to the 97% of natural annual flux. yes.

2019-10-25 17:18:07 UTC  

how is this hard?

2019-10-25 17:18:11 UTC  

Okay just like the bucket

2019-10-25 17:18:22 UTC  

3% flow of water increase seems insignificant

2019-10-25 17:18:29 UTC  

But

2019-10-25 17:18:39 UTC  

No. Stop. I can't take anymore buckets

2019-10-25 17:18:46 UTC  

In an equilibrium system 3% increase can fuck it over

2019-10-25 17:19:59 UTC  

what about the 97%?

2019-10-25 17:20:39 UTC  

The 97% is just flows out the hole.