Message from @Ed

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2020-02-09 20:00:08 UTC  

than the state degenerates

2020-02-09 20:00:10 UTC  

its not about incentive
its about not dying

2020-02-09 20:00:14 UTC  

because it has every incentive to get worse

2020-02-09 20:00:15 UTC  

That is how it worked in the dark and early middle ages. Lords gave taxation willingly for mutual defense.

2020-02-09 20:00:18 UTC  

its all about incenitve

2020-02-09 20:00:23 UTC  

no you will die

2020-02-09 20:00:23 UTC  

if its incentives are to get worse it will

2020-02-09 20:00:27 UTC  

the state dies

2020-02-09 20:00:37 UTC  

> @Ed Hurr paying a private company for protection is a tax <:hyperbrainlet:641878745631817738>
@Panikooooos

OK what if I have more money than you and I want to take your property by force and sell it to get more mercenaries
Then what?

2020-02-09 20:00:40 UTC  

nobody's going to die around here

2020-02-09 20:00:48 UTC  

nobody dies in ancapistan

2020-02-09 20:00:48 UTC  

this is dumb

2020-02-09 20:00:53 UTC  

people will not volunteer to defend against the mongols

2020-02-09 20:00:59 UTC  

if you take peoples property by force

2020-02-09 20:01:10 UTC  

everyone else will move in to take yours

2020-02-09 20:01:30 UTC  

You must force people to fight the mongols
and you need to force millions of million
into blind loyality into a smooth system.

there is no room for debate or voluntary choice

2020-02-09 20:01:30 UTC  

unless you're the only one with a gun

2020-02-09 20:01:32 UTC  

if you remove NAP protection from yourself by violating it

2020-02-09 20:01:34 UTC  

get rekt

2020-02-09 20:01:37 UTC  

yes thats the state

2020-02-09 20:01:42 UTC  

That's where you're just pulling shit outta your ass

2020-02-09 20:01:45 UTC  

where it can take peoples property away

2020-02-09 20:01:51 UTC  

and nobody can move in

2020-02-09 20:01:54 UTC  

to attack it

2020-02-09 20:01:58 UTC  

@Chawosaurian

voluntary choices is lethally dangerous
any hasitation will kill everyone

2020-02-09 20:01:58 UTC  

because its the only one with guns

2020-02-09 20:02:02 UTC  

People won't risk their lives to protect other people's property

2020-02-09 20:02:05 UTC  

@Ed What if crazy hypothetical number #3525252 tho <:hyperbrainlet:641878745631817738>

2020-02-09 20:02:09 UTC  

Not unless they're paid

2020-02-09 20:02:12 UTC  

the NAP wont protect you from the MONGOLS

2020-02-09 20:02:12 UTC  

they wont protect other peoples property

2020-02-09 20:02:13 UTC  

what would the state do if a being like superman ever appeared?

2020-02-09 20:02:21 UTC  

they will steal the guy who violated NAPs property

2020-02-09 20:02:22 UTC  

Guys remember in ancap world everyone is a psychopath who wants to kill people and steal their property

2020-02-09 20:02:23 UTC  

Kill superman

2020-02-09 20:02:31 UTC  

also why not

2020-02-09 20:02:36 UTC  

why wouldnt they attack a threat

2020-02-09 20:02:48 UTC  

@Rody Le Cid
in reality, superman would be the new state
unless we kill him

2020-02-09 20:02:50 UTC  

> @Ed What if crazy hypothetical number #3525252 tho <:hyperbrainlet:641878745631817738>
@Panikooooos

It's not even crazy

It's literally the same shit that happens throughout history

Colonialism is the norm

2020-02-09 20:03:17 UTC  

its always the same shit

2020-02-09 20:03:21 UTC  

with stupid hypotheticals