by that standard, how could either christians or pagans be traditionalist, considering that europe was at various points either christian or pagan

either way you're going against 'tradition'

And yet, regardless, they still drank booze.

The beer gardens? The beer halls? Central gathering places, symbols of community, and trust. Oktoberfest?

Church wine?

its not as if there weren't temperate people, or people who advocated temperence at various times and places

i rarely hear people speak of total and absolute prohibition

or see them write

I'm not even against alcohol, I just think you're unconvincing

But there was rarely a definitive drinking age, and frankly, that was mostly Christians. Did pagan Europe ever advocate, or need prohibition?

Its not as if having drinkable water everywhere is something new...

there were certainly philosophers who were for moderation, and saw abuse of alcohol as immoral

but the point is just kind of dumb

That's not the same as advocating against alcohol, and most people would agree. It's not as if, without prohibition, we'd we'd all become hedonistic drunks.

is believing that the earth is the center of the universe a 'traditionalist' position?

no

yes

it's trad

you're not trad

The universe revolves around the earth

Okay, fine, but it still annoys me that people like Varg would oppose alcohol. Like, what do they support other than mudhuts? What's distinctly European about the way they live?

It's anti-European to advocate any sort of alcohol prohibition. There's a reason it took off the in the states and not here, for the same reason gun control took off here and not the states. Culture.

"its anti-european to advocate any sort of alcohol prohibition"

you lost me there

Stop imbibing the semitic spirit

I don't really think you even care about what is or is not european

Not really. alcohol makes us do stupid shit, and behave uncivlized, but at the same time, it relaxes us and makes many of us more social. so Im torn on the issue of alcohol.

idk why that should be a statement with moral force for you

just seems dumb

Degenerate alcohol use by teens and clubbers should be stopped tho imo

if you don't have the self-discipline necessary to moderately drink alcohol,
your DNA is no longer necessary and you can't "come in"

Why do people think I'm unconcerned about white people? Where have I ever said this? Or advocated any sort of miscegenation?

you will be sent to the drunknostate

I didn't say that

in fact

nobody said this

You said I wasn't concerned with what is and is not European.

Ummm Europeans are not white sweety

Weaboo is mentally challenged

btw