Most of human history serves as evidence that alcohol has never destroyed a society. It's a central aspect of European culture. Don't be selective of what aspects of European culture you support. You can't pick and choose what traditions you like, tradition is tradition.

Alcohol is a European tradition.

idk gin was like at like crack rock at one time

you should 18 to drink

why can't you pick and choose what traditions you like?

just wondering

you can fight and die you can have unlimited beer

<:alex:401875510923100180> nothing wrong with give small amount of booze to kids on holidays

Picking and choosing would be inauthentic i guess. (I pick and choose though lol)

a beer or glass of wine aint killing no body

why would it be inauthentic?

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@Nerthulas Because you aren't a traditionalist at that point.

Extinction Rebellion sounds like what happens when Aliens conquer the planet

Edward Dutton calls them mutants

You're destroying European tradition, and the European ecosystem. What will happen to the grape fields and hop yards when their produce goes unpicked?

by that standard, how could either christians or pagans be traditionalist, considering that europe was at various points either christian or pagan

either way you're going against 'tradition'

And yet, regardless, they still drank booze.

The beer gardens? The beer halls? Central gathering places, symbols of community, and trust. Oktoberfest?

Church wine?

its not as if there weren't temperate people, or people who advocated temperence at various times and places

i rarely hear people speak of total and absolute prohibition

or see them write

I'm not even against alcohol, I just think you're unconvincing

But there was rarely a definitive drinking age, and frankly, that was mostly Christians. Did pagan Europe ever advocate, or need prohibition?

Its not as if having drinkable water everywhere is something new...

there were certainly philosophers who were for moderation, and saw abuse of alcohol as immoral

but the point is just kind of dumb

That's not the same as advocating against alcohol, and most people would agree. It's not as if, without prohibition, we'd we'd all become hedonistic drunks.

is believing that the earth is the center of the universe a 'traditionalist' position?

no

yes

it's trad

you're not trad

The universe revolves around the earth

Okay, fine, but it still annoys me that people like Varg would oppose alcohol. Like, what do they support other than mudhuts? What's distinctly European about the way they live?

It's anti-European to advocate any sort of alcohol prohibition. There's a reason it took off the in the states and not here, for the same reason gun control took off here and not the states. Culture.

"its anti-european to advocate any sort of alcohol prohibition"

you lost me there

Stop imbibing the semitic spirit