Message from @Roko

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2019-10-24 23:30:24 UTC  

Your race are just kin of a more distant degree

2019-10-24 23:30:27 UTC  

We're in the least innovative period in human history, meritocracy plays a role in it

2019-10-24 23:30:32 UTC  

and all people at a more distant degree

2019-10-24 23:30:41 UTC  

and then living, conscious mammals

2019-10-24 23:30:44 UTC  

and so on

2019-10-24 23:31:19 UTC  

How is the current arrangement of society meritocratic

2019-10-24 23:31:36 UTC  

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2019-10-24 23:31:49 UTC  

Even under truer forms of meritocracy my statement is still true

2019-10-24 23:32:11 UTC  

Our media and states encourage the worst qualities in people as virtuous, unironically, and enfranchise the people with the most extreme personal failures with power in order to provide greater representation to failures

2019-10-24 23:32:46 UTC  

Division of labor was a product of meritocratic capitalism which actually hindered innovation

2019-10-24 23:33:01 UTC  

It was meritocratic?

2019-10-24 23:33:15 UTC  

What?

2019-10-24 23:33:23 UTC  

Nobody was inventing when everyone was a farmer

2019-10-24 23:33:40 UTC  

They didn't elevate the people with the greatest capacities, they equalized everyone in trivial manual labour positions in order to expedite manufacturing efficiency

2019-10-24 23:33:50 UTC  

That's egalitarianism of a kind, not meritocracy

2019-10-24 23:33:56 UTC  

The age of artisanry was more innovative than current day

2019-10-24 23:34:12 UTC  

Yes

2019-10-24 23:35:07 UTC  

And it was also less meritocratic
Men were decent at a lot of things but masters of none
For the most part
Now we're masters of the most microscopic tasks

2019-10-24 23:35:26 UTC  

And nothing else

2019-10-24 23:36:17 UTC  

That's not meritocracy lol

2019-10-24 23:36:20 UTC  

I think the lower rates of innovation per capita prob have more to do with dsygenics regarding things like iq tbh

2019-10-24 23:36:48 UTC  

^

2019-10-24 23:36:54 UTC  

@Roko my argument is the reverse casuality of that

2019-10-24 23:37:03 UTC  

Our current system elevates those who invested the most money into educational institutions, often completely disregarding their personal merit and similarly undermines people of great capabilities because they failed to invest in said institutions

2019-10-24 23:37:32 UTC  

We may have different understandings of meritocracy as well then

2019-10-24 23:38:47 UTC  

Remember, European nations do unironically suffer a shortage of skilled labour, which is why trade labourers have rising rates of employment. Most of our people are employed in service and unskilled manual labour

2019-10-24 23:39:03 UTC  

We are a race of food servants, waiters and truck drivers

2019-10-24 23:39:04 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/637072600744460288/1571959829739.png

2019-10-24 23:39:07 UTC  

@Deleted User so you think that division of labor is related to the lowering of average iq? The way i see it specialists and the division of labor is just a natural progression of an expanding industrial and technological landscape.

2019-10-24 23:39:09 UTC  

and plumbers lmao

2019-10-24 23:39:11 UTC  

cow tipping

2019-10-24 23:39:14 UTC  

ewwwwwwwww

2019-10-24 23:39:16 UTC  

and prostitutes

2019-10-24 23:39:25 UTC  

Yeah and prostitutes sadly

2019-10-24 23:39:31 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/637072715022336022/1272841626367.jpg

2019-10-24 23:39:45 UTC  

Men and women alike, the porn industry and sex services are thriving

2019-10-24 23:40:00 UTC  

@Roko yes, or as I would word it overquantification on a societal basis

2019-10-24 23:40:20 UTC  

Define meritocracy in your own words

2019-10-24 23:40:30 UTC  

Just so I could better understand where you're coming from

2019-10-24 23:41:07 UTC  

Who is that delightful future wife?

2019-10-24 23:41:20 UTC  

It's axiomatic
Depends on what tasks a society defines as valuable