Message from @Smoke

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2019-10-28 01:16:04 UTC  

I only lurk this discord.

2019-10-28 01:16:08 UTC  

especially when its very poor logic

2019-10-28 01:16:10 UTC  

Dyer isn't himself dumb, but imo his positions are dumb

2019-10-28 01:16:13 UTC  

@fuguer well I try and keep an open mind. I'm a contrarian by nature. I'm not saying the darwin devolves theory is right, but it made some good arguments

2019-10-28 01:16:17 UTC  

You should read and tell me what you think lol

2019-10-28 01:16:26 UTC  

@Smoke dig deeper, evolution makes alot of sense, I used to think that, but I read alot of scientific literature. The body is a whole list of trade-offs that build on a machine, what seems like something getting worse. has a bigger reason.

2019-10-28 01:16:41 UTC  

All the logical systems though obey the rule that they must reign supreme, is what I'm getting out

2019-10-28 01:16:43 UTC  

Meta-logic

2019-10-28 01:16:53 UTC  

JF did an episode on Darwin Devolves iirc

2019-10-28 01:17:00 UTC  

he read like the first chapter and talked about it

2019-10-28 01:17:01 UTC  

That meta-logic is the evidence of God

2019-10-28 01:17:12 UTC  

and said it was so dumb he didn't have to do the rest because he pre-debunked it

2019-10-28 01:17:13 UTC  

lol

2019-10-28 01:17:17 UTC  

>valerie

2019-10-28 01:17:21 UTC  

Darwin was wrong about a lot of things but the fundemental principle of evolution by natural selection was correct.

2019-10-28 01:17:33 UTC  

@TheUserNameofPeace why is that meta-logic the evidence of god?

2019-10-28 01:17:35 UTC  

I will check out @fuguer

2019-10-28 01:17:37 UTC  

how does that even follow?

2019-10-28 01:17:39 UTC  

it doesn't

2019-10-28 01:17:41 UTC  

3 top news about science

2019-10-28 01:17:44 UTC  

devolve isnt even a thing

2019-10-28 01:17:44 UTC  

<:oof:399031884312739841>

2019-10-28 01:17:45 UTC  

it just sounds sort of nice

2019-10-28 01:17:51 UTC  

you adapt to environment

2019-10-28 01:17:53 UTC  

nothing more

2019-10-28 01:17:59 UTC  

theres no moral/value/progress judgement

2019-10-28 01:18:04 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/638184678242910218/Marquardt-Beauty-Mask-Photoshop-Revision.jpg

2019-10-28 01:18:06 UTC  

climate change , saving black ppl and vaping

2019-10-28 01:18:11 UTC  

<:oof:399031884312739841>

2019-10-28 01:18:13 UTC  

@Nerthulas Whatever system of logic you deploy, it must reign supreme in order to achieve coherence

2019-10-28 01:18:14 UTC  

The body has so many obvious 'design' flaws, that no engineer would make us this way.

2019-10-28 01:18:14 UTC  

science

2019-10-28 01:18:25 UTC  

what's really going on is that we have no access to the world except through the lens and matrix by which we interpret and organize phenomena, the brain

2019-10-28 01:18:26 UTC  

@fuguer he uses the term to describe the breaking of existing functionality for short-term adaptation. Rather than creating new functionality all together. Like stunting beak length, for example

2019-10-28 01:18:26 UTC  

nice beauty mask

2019-10-28 01:18:29 UTC  

so it appears concrete to us

2019-10-28 01:18:49 UTC  

yes, of course most mutations are harmful