Message from @fuguer

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2019-10-28 03:44:11 UTC  

The current idea of the ruling class is the same as the idea you just suggested btw

2019-10-28 03:44:18 UTC  

To improve humanity as a whole

2019-10-28 03:44:18 UTC  

i dont see how you can make definitive statements about my moral preferences

2019-10-28 03:44:19 UTC  

but you can use science to modify your moral values and "redirect fire"

2019-10-28 03:44:26 UTC  

thats right Rody

2019-10-28 03:44:31 UTC  

Healing the world

2019-10-28 03:44:34 UTC  

Sounds familiar

2019-10-28 03:44:38 UTC  

thats what i mean by recursively evolving your moral beliefs

2019-10-28 03:44:44 UTC  

its a universal quality of values, they are not 'necessary', they are preferred

2019-10-28 03:45:07 UTC  

our preferences arent tabula rasa

2019-10-28 03:45:13 UTC  

theyre born out of our genetics and experiences

2019-10-28 03:45:13 UTC  

I didn't say that they were

2019-10-28 03:45:20 UTC  

and i can shape and redirect my experiences

2019-10-28 03:45:22 UTC  

that's exactly what I said

2019-10-28 03:45:25 UTC  

in a way that shapes my moral preferences

2019-10-28 03:45:39 UTC  

Nerth have you seen Noam Chomsky's latest interview? A lot of Nazi references

2019-10-28 03:45:41 UTC  

i read and studied A LOT of philosophy as a child

2019-10-28 03:45:48 UTC  

yes, studying science can change the emotional and rational context in which you form preferences, that is precisely what I said

2019-10-28 03:45:55 UTC  

i took night classes on philosophy at college when i was still in highs chool

2019-10-28 03:46:02 UTC  

that doesn't mean that they're 'based on science'

2019-10-28 03:46:02 UTC  

ultimately i found most of it meaningless

2019-10-28 03:46:14 UTC  

because it was all circular reasoning based on nothing

2019-10-28 03:46:18 UTC  

@iippo I haven't, but interesting

2019-10-28 03:46:25 UTC  

the logic was fine but it had no valid axioms

2019-10-28 03:46:35 UTC  

goodnight duck man @fuguer

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2019-10-28 03:46:43 UTC  

💤

2019-10-28 03:46:54 UTC  

thus, the axioms, the basis upon which everything else evolves in my moral preferences is my best knowledge of reality/science

2019-10-28 03:46:55 UTC  

@Nerthulas Currently the most popular identity politics is white nationalism he said

2019-10-28 03:47:06 UTC  

Chomsky is delusional

2019-10-28 03:47:09 UTC  

at this point

2019-10-28 03:47:54 UTC  

wtf embed

2019-10-28 03:48:07 UTC  

embed is fucked

2019-10-28 03:48:15 UTC  

scared to click

2019-10-28 03:48:19 UTC  

@fuguer I wouldn't say that's a 'basis', its the context under which your preferences are being formed, recursively as you say

2019-10-28 03:48:23 UTC  

or rather, part of it

2019-10-28 03:49:05 UTC  

right

2019-10-28 03:49:08 UTC  

is this it iippo?

2019-10-28 03:49:08 UTC  

Here...it works

2019-10-28 03:49:12 UTC  

Yes

2019-10-28 03:49:15 UTC  

nice