Message from @Nerthulas
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you have to have prior preferences
how can it be impossible for me to construct moral preferences in a way i prefer/
prior values under which to evaluate possible courses of action
so it can't be 'based on science'
it has to be based on some fundamental values
yes, and my moral preference for humans to dominate and become the best they can be is likely based on a very base evolutionary drive
what you just said is ridiculous...
okay
that's a real preference
lol
yes, and the other precepts and ideas i use to support that are based on my best understanding of science
hes not wrong thats the underlying drive btwn sexual selection
you can only explain, idk how you 'support' that value
i support basmati rice
with science
in theory if a black person has 120 iq and flawless behavior/social skills, and it was guaranteed their children would be the same, are they even black any more?
you aren't answering the question
its an interesting question
whats the question
you have to have prior values
offspring tend to go towards the mean tho
science can help you evaluate what courses of action best fulfil your desires
you can change your moral principles via recursion
im just start posting bbc memes<:smugooze:398100987866251265>
if my initial drive was to dominate, and i realized science and reasoning was the best hope of that
its not even fair anymore
yes, that's true, but it doesn't make them any more legitimate, just a different context in which preferences form
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then i might recursively evolve my moral beliefs
which most of us do over time
as we age and grow
at least i hope so
I've never seen an attractive black girl irl
its never going to be 'based on science', though some greater understanding of the world can change the emotional and rational context in which you form values
that's all tbh
whats your proof of that
The current idea of the ruling class is the same as the idea you just suggested btw