I mean, late Qing China did seriously fucking suck.

Lol

@Nerthulas I didn't say that. That's your own invention.

I don't give a fuck

they had cities

Stop attributing it to me

the clovis civilization date back to like 13k, there has been evidence of earlier migrations but the evidence isn't as strong @Deleted User

jews control america

that's totally incomparable

to the situation in africa

You don't give a fuck because China utterly blows apart your world view.

Is Bach arguing against both culture and genetics

are you a Jared diamondite?

compared to most of humanity for most of history, Qing China was a wealthy society

Geographic determinism

The fact of the matter is history can not be explained by either IQ or genetics.

China ***confirms*** my world view

@Nerthulas, not the late Qing.

You’re a guns germs and Steelers

13k is plausible, given the differences between natives and modern asians

idk wtf he talking about at this point @fuguer

China had a functioning society in which they had an established civilization

@fuguer, I'm a historical materialist.

He sounds like he took the guns germs and steel pill

And it was and still is socially cohesive

Even though diamonds work is totally discredited by social sciences

Ryan faulk did a nice video on that

That's cuz guns germs and steel, at its best, mirrors Marxist historical materialism.

@Deleted User well, the 13k migrants weren't the same as modern chinese, they just have a shared ancestor

My point is very simple

Guns germs and steel = cuckery

'why did China end up rich and Sub-Saharan Africa end up poor' <:kekboi:417880491182653450>

Why is Africa shit today?

Because of Africans

you are historically illiterate

they are said to be more siberian like following mamoths @Deleted User

If you’re arguing a nations success depends on genetics culture and geographic factors I don’t disagree

Imagine equating China to Africa

@Nerthulas answer the fucking question.

Lol