Message from @fuguer
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The marxist view of history relies on tabula rasa with respect to inter-human-differenceces which has been roundly debunked so why are you even arguing?
at my job, i get to put the "made in the USA" sticker on the shit i make
Of course you'd question Chinese IQ stats. I'm assuming you think China had these IQ lead for quite a while.
china also has a very brutal and repressive history of purges, and is highly traditional, which makes it harder for them to innovate
well discovery and colonization of the Americas was a huge economic boost too
the Europeans outstripped the Chinese probably because of a combination of material and cultural factors, and possibly that at high levels, IQ does not properly predict the developmental potential of a society
@Roko, show me this debunking. Also, it does not require tabula rasa. You don't know historical materialism.
@Nerthulas, yet it does in the case of China and Africa?
think of genetics as your PC hardware... having a better PC will help you play a game better, but thats not the only factor
so
think of culture as the players skill
@BabygottBach so you admit that differenceces in ability between humans (and races) are largely heritable/mediated by genes?
are asians the best gamers
Which other continent was subjugated by another continent, @DOGPILLED?
think of other factors as starting position, teammates, luck, etc
they all matter
@Roko, it's mostly envrionmental.
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yes, its possible that there is a complexity to intelligence which exists at a very high level which does not exist at lower levels
anyone esle tired
sleepy
@fuguer, when I look at the massive swings in history, I see no average.
but I am not purely a genetic determinist on the matter of the enlightenment and IR
@BabygottBach the average heritability for any given trait is 50 percent. Some like iq are heritable upwards of 85 percent.
thats because the averge condition isnt what they teach in school
I think material and cultural factors played a role in why the West had such an explosion of development first
they teach the extraordinary, the revolutions
@Nerthulas, that's a copout
we always pay attention to the exceptional, not the mundane
it's genes when it confirms your racist biases of dumb black chimps, but more complicated when the same sorts of logic would lead to a debunking.
i dont understand how you can argue culture doesnt matter, surely you agree it must, you just think it only matters x%?
Yeah, imagine having to learn about all the mundane in school
@fuguer, even if you look at the mundane, what is mundane in one period experiences massive shifts.
The balance of power in the world has seen huge movements.
so you dont think culture matters?
Culture is a surface level effect
@BabygottBach no, its your liberal bias that prevents you from seeing reality for what it is, because it would make you be "racist" I'm notn racist by the way, I have a black friend.