@Deleted User, your claim was that Africans were incapable of doing anything other than warring with each other in little bantu tribes.

@HemRoy5 do you come from a land down unda?

if you want to look at it from a materialist perspective, then because of the slave trade

Now the goalposts seem to keep shifting.

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@esotericpazuzuism yes 🙂

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@BabygottBach nope did not say that, you speak of logical fallicies, but you seem to use a straw man a lot

@Nerthulas, lots of civilizations were founded along trade routes. So what?

being capable of living in civilization, however poorly, and being capable of originating civilization are not the same thing

that was in answer to you question: "because of Islam"

Buying bread from a man in Brussels
He was six-foot-four and full of muscles
I said, "do you speak-a my language?"
He just smiled and gave me a vegemite sandwich

Was it an Arab running Mali?

What are you idiots arguing?

was Mansa Musa an Arab?

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no, he wasn't lol

happy australia day

I'll settle for cultural development, but where are the genes here?

but that's @Leaf 's conversation

bf above

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Mansu Musa was a warlord though

What happened to the genes that made Africans incapable of running their own civilizations?

Warlords are crucial to civilizations.

your missing the points

#notallcivilizations

all of them

It seems like you've shifted position away from genetic determinism to cultural determinism.

modern day Congo is more wealthy than 14th century Mali

Mali was prosperous under Mansa Musu due to trade with arabs, Mali exported huge amounts of gold.

A lot of places today would be wealthier than any place in the 14th century.

I don't know what your conception of "genetic determinism" is

@BabygottBach that was not a very orderly society. It got wealthy do to the wealth of African natural resources. Take Europe and East Asia, very natural resource dry. They used intelligence to make valuables.

@fuguer? So? There are such things as trading civilizations.

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JFG vs bach

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African might be the most resource rich continent on the planet.

I don't consider myself a genetic determinist, I consider myself someone who acknowledges that behavior has a genetic component and that that is significant to historical development of various people groups

Russia and China know this already and so does the rest of the world @Hector