Message from @BabygottBach
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these two are exactly the same and we would expect the same cognitive abelites
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-27252307 I love how they Imply that SA isn't actually their home, when they've lived there for generations, and cultivated their own culture and way of life, unique from their European ancestors.
i think it's good that they do come home
fuck africa
It's race denialism bullshit. Among other things, it relies on the conception that cognitive effects of evolution must have happened before migration rather than after, for which there is no evidence at all other than some supposition made by the author. Furthermore, it denies the differences existing between groups of people that find themselves in different conditions (i.e. perhaps cooperation is good in a winter if you live on average 1 km away from anyone, but not at the equator if you live with 40 people around you all the time who may have increased violent tendencies). It then commits the error of thinking that genetic diversity as measured on a per-letter-of-DNA basis is a good quantification to affirm or deny the presence of distinct evolutionary pressures applying to different groups. It doesn't. We could have less variation than chimpanzees in number of letters, yet stronger natural selection pressures could be at play in shaping the different frequencies between groups. Finally, it strawmans the race realist position by stating that races are "genetically homogeneous groups," which is not the position and which should always raise a red flag in the reader, since setting such an impossible standard is clearly evidence that the author wanted to reach the conclusion that races don't exist.
@BabygottBach I am willing to give you a serious discussion in the <#634548436280016906> channel. If you came here knowing we are race realists, you can here to provoke meaningless without a serious discussion.
One race the human race
Hail JF!
I think you're strawmanning the quote, @JFGariepy
that's because you think everything is a strawman
Then, @Banjod, explain to me how he could infer any of what he just said from the quotes I posted.
@BabygottBach I am welling to give you a serious debate in <#634548436280016906> .
_any_ of it
?
For instance, where does the quote say that "races have to be homogenous"?
I am swelling
for this debate
@BabygottBach please read your own quote
well, I didn't read the shit
Unless JF is familiar with the source of the quote and the authors themselves and know them to be operating on false conceptions of the race realist argument.
they already are
look at what I posted
that is not the race realist position
so its already a strawman
we know it's false because thinking the opposite makes no sense. I've already laid out simple logical cases for you
from the get-go
which proves different groups must exist
@BabygottBach You're the one accusing a Ph. D scientist of strawmanning, you could at least show us a statement I've made which you believe is not supported by the paragraphs.
you just strawmanned him again
@BabygottBach It's DOCTOR JF to you
... crickets.
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@BabygottBach like I said, I am willing to give you a thoughtful and serious debate.
How DARE you not know random details about the person who got randomly quoted with no context
@JFGariepy, does the quote say that race realists claim that races are homogenous?
It does not. So why did you say that it did?
"the possibility that human history has been characterised by genetically homogeneous groups ("races") distinguished by major biological differences, is not consistent with genetic evidence"
genetic bottlenecks and isolation is the easiest case to prove genetic groups must exist
Nerth showed you it did