Message from @Nerthulas
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Fascism and Asian?
@Nerthulas i think you should go to the doctor. im a bit worried. my teacher had the same symptoms and she said it was advancing and was going to infect her BRAIN
yeah, these guys are kinda ancaps i think
I would like East Asia to be Imperialistic again.
yeah, that would be cool
teleological is not a valid argument
Can we discuss it and see where it goes, fuguer?
I would like to test what I have learned.
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See if it is sound or not. Previously, I ranked it D or C tier. But I think it is B tier now and might be sound or probable.
omg why is ben even entertaining this topic
ok
telelogical doesn't explain anything that's not better explained by anthropic principle
Hm, can you review what that means. The book only touched on that.
@Nerthulas she said it was a normal flu at first, but the coughing didnt stop for weeks and apparently she had a sinus infection
and it was going in her BRAIN
I am 40 pages away from the exploitation of the anthropic principle.
I think the doctor would be able to tell if I had a sinus infection, and they didn't say that I did, thanks though
Only 90 pages in
look into aquinas' five ways
I've never heard of that
unless something was causing both
those are the best philosophical arguments for the existence of god
well you'd need to present a telelogical argument
Got ya
@Nerthulas you already went to the doctor, thats good, i was getting worried
i am not a science
i have no idea
but the aquinas argument is extremely weak, argument from contingency is ultimately flawed
thanks anyway
the arguments are strong, you probably havent interacted with the real ones
1. There are constant that are improbable to come about alone.
2. They are fine tuned. (assumption)
3. Someone would have tuned it would need to be outside of the universe itself. (assumption)
4. We call the fine tuner God.
there are retarded bastardizations of them that are super prominent
1. and 4. do not seem controversial to me.
I might need to explain 2. and 3.. I just made them on the spot. The argument can probably be refined to at least ten premises.
all these fine tuning arguments are not valid proofs of god
in an infinitely vast multiverse the anthropic principle ensures we will only exist in areas that are finely tuned
Well, I am just arguing that whatever fine-tuned is the world is what we call God and not arguing for any feature other than he is out-side of the universe.
we already know from inflationary cosmology there are infinitely expanding universes, and each universe can have different natural laws/forces as the higgs breaks the electroweak symmetry in different ways