Message from @Nerthulas

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2019-11-09 05:55:02 UTC  

Fascism and Asian?

2019-11-09 05:55:11 UTC  

@Nerthulas i think you should go to the doctor. im a bit worried. my teacher had the same symptoms and she said it was advancing and was going to infect her BRAIN

2019-11-09 05:55:15 UTC  

yeah, these guys are kinda ancaps i think

2019-11-09 05:55:16 UTC  

I would like East Asia to be Imperialistic again.

2019-11-09 05:55:31 UTC  

yeah, that would be cool

2019-11-09 05:55:33 UTC  

teleological is not a valid argument

2019-11-09 05:55:50 UTC  

Can we discuss it and see where it goes, fuguer?

2019-11-09 05:55:57 UTC  

I would like to test what I have learned.

2019-11-09 05:56:20 UTC  

@Cascade what symptoms?

2019-11-09 05:56:31 UTC  

<:coomer:639982442576609311>

2019-11-09 05:56:31 UTC  

See if it is sound or not. Previously, I ranked it D or C tier. But I think it is B tier now and might be sound or probable.

2019-11-09 05:56:33 UTC  

omg why is ben even entertaining this topic

2019-11-09 05:56:37 UTC  

ok

2019-11-09 05:56:58 UTC  

telelogical doesn't explain anything that's not better explained by anthropic principle

2019-11-09 05:57:26 UTC  

Hm, can you review what that means. The book only touched on that.

2019-11-09 05:57:36 UTC  

@Nerthulas she said it was a normal flu at first, but the coughing didnt stop for weeks and apparently she had a sinus infection

2019-11-09 05:58:12 UTC  

and it was going in her BRAIN

2019-11-09 05:58:19 UTC  

I am 40 pages away from the exploitation of the anthropic principle.

2019-11-09 05:58:25 UTC  

I think the doctor would be able to tell if I had a sinus infection, and they didn't say that I did, thanks though

2019-11-09 05:58:26 UTC  

Only 90 pages in

2019-11-09 05:58:40 UTC  

also how does a sinus infection get into the brain?

2019-11-09 05:58:44 UTC  

look into aquinas' five ways

2019-11-09 05:58:46 UTC  

I've never heard of that

2019-11-09 05:58:51 UTC  

unless something was causing both

2019-11-09 05:58:59 UTC  

those are the best philosophical arguments for the existence of god

2019-11-09 05:59:06 UTC  

well you'd need to present a telelogical argument

2019-11-09 05:59:17 UTC  

Got ya

2019-11-09 05:59:27 UTC  

@Nerthulas you already went to the doctor, thats good, i was getting worried

2019-11-09 05:59:46 UTC  

i am not a science

2019-11-09 05:59:48 UTC  

i have no idea

2019-11-09 05:59:51 UTC  

but the aquinas argument is extremely weak, argument from contingency is ultimately flawed

2019-11-09 06:00:04 UTC  

thanks anyway

2019-11-09 06:00:30 UTC  

the arguments are strong, you probably havent interacted with the real ones

2019-11-09 06:00:50 UTC  

1. There are constant that are improbable to come about alone.
2. They are fine tuned. (assumption)
3. Someone would have tuned it would need to be outside of the universe itself. (assumption)
4. We call the fine tuner God.

2019-11-09 06:00:58 UTC  

there are retarded bastardizations of them that are super prominent

2019-11-09 06:01:06 UTC  

1. and 4. do not seem controversial to me.

2019-11-09 06:01:40 UTC  

I might need to explain 2. and 3.. I just made them on the spot. The argument can probably be refined to at least ten premises.

2019-11-09 06:01:46 UTC  

all these fine tuning arguments are not valid proofs of god

2019-11-09 06:02:06 UTC  

in an infinitely vast multiverse the anthropic principle ensures we will only exist in areas that are finely tuned

2019-11-09 06:02:43 UTC  

Well, I am just arguing that whatever fine-tuned is the world is what we call God and not arguing for any feature other than he is out-side of the universe.

2019-11-09 06:02:47 UTC  

we already know from inflationary cosmology there are infinitely expanding universes, and each universe can have different natural laws/forces as the higgs breaks the electroweak symmetry in different ways