Message from @Hector
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not believing in race just happens to coincide perfectly with this equality bullshit.. it's magic!
i love these coincidences
I am a biology major. I know what you are talking about
I am not an idiot
But you won't convince anyone with this stale arguments
Instead, you turn the definition into a process
and premises
that's true
NO ONE here is gonna start believing race isn't real
the conversation can only go 1 way
and you must assume we know better
If he denies the evolutionary process, he is not worth your time.
Start there.
because we have had this conversation 50 times
a race is any population cluster above family and below species level
if you accept that such clusters exist, you are a race-realist
If you start with a definition, they will stalemate the argument
how?
You start with premises and process and create the definition
Don't go definition to premises and process
I noticed this is the most effective strategy to convince people.
you're not gonna gaslight anyone to think these two are the same, like we can't tell

for fuck's sake
I want to vomit. Delete that
I haven't had the patience to try to convince someone of something in a while 😆
so I would be satisfied lecturing him about how he doesn't understand terms
this is why, if i am elected president, i will imprison all females. day 1
that is my promise to the american people
thank you
maybe when I'm healthier/calmer I will get back into trying it that way
He understood my terms and stalemated the conversation. He had a PH D and even did genetic research on cancer for crying out loud. He was biased.
I acknowledge that you may be right that that's more effective for that purpose
well what did he say?
what I find funny is how these people rationalize all of sub saharan africa
just all of it
Essentially that choosing the line which we call race is arbitrary.
We can cluster them
But humans are still picking the lines
and more arguments
He is right. i actually agree with that point.