Message from @Hector

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2019-11-15 06:18:38 UTC  

not believing in race just happens to coincide perfectly with this equality bullshit.. it's magic!

2019-11-15 06:18:49 UTC  

i love these coincidences

2019-11-15 06:18:50 UTC  

I am a biology major. I know what you are talking about

2019-11-15 06:18:55 UTC  

I am not an idiot

2019-11-15 06:19:15 UTC  

But you won't convince anyone with this stale arguments

2019-11-15 06:19:30 UTC  

Instead, you turn the definition into a process

2019-11-15 06:19:32 UTC  

and premises

2019-11-15 06:19:45 UTC  

that's true

2019-11-15 06:19:52 UTC  

NO ONE here is gonna start believing race isn't real

2019-11-15 06:19:57 UTC  

the conversation can only go 1 way

2019-11-15 06:20:01 UTC  

and you must assume we know better

2019-11-15 06:20:04 UTC  

If he denies the evolutionary process, he is not worth your time.

2019-11-15 06:20:10 UTC  

Start there.

2019-11-15 06:20:11 UTC  

because we have had this conversation 50 times

2019-11-15 06:20:33 UTC  

a race is any population cluster above family and below species level

2019-11-15 06:20:44 UTC  

if you accept that such clusters exist, you are a race-realist

2019-11-15 06:20:50 UTC  

If you start with a definition, they will stalemate the argument

2019-11-15 06:20:55 UTC  

how?

2019-11-15 06:21:07 UTC  

You start with premises and process and create the definition

2019-11-15 06:21:22 UTC  

Don't go definition to premises and process

2019-11-15 06:21:38 UTC  

Start with the process and premises and go to the definition

2019-11-15 06:21:59 UTC  

I noticed this is the most effective strategy to convince people.

2019-11-15 06:22:06 UTC  

you're not gonna gaslight anyone to think these two are the same, like we can't tell

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/644784172220678144/unknown.png

2019-11-15 06:22:34 UTC  

for fuck's sake

2019-11-15 06:22:41 UTC  

I want to vomit. Delete that

2019-11-15 06:23:09 UTC  

I haven't had the patience to try to convince someone of something in a while 😆

2019-11-15 06:23:21 UTC  

so I would be satisfied lecturing him about how he doesn't understand terms

2019-11-15 06:23:39 UTC  

this is why, if i am elected president, i will imprison all females. day 1

2019-11-15 06:23:50 UTC  

that is my promise to the american people

2019-11-15 06:23:52 UTC  

thank you

2019-11-15 06:23:52 UTC  

maybe when I'm healthier/calmer I will get back into trying it that way

2019-11-15 06:24:06 UTC  

He understood my terms and stalemated the conversation. He had a PH D and even did genetic research on cancer for crying out loud. He was biased.

2019-11-15 06:24:10 UTC  

I acknowledge that you may be right that that's more effective for that purpose

2019-11-15 06:24:21 UTC  

well what did he say?

2019-11-15 06:24:28 UTC  

what I find funny is how these people rationalize all of sub saharan africa

2019-11-15 06:24:32 UTC  

just all of it

2019-11-15 06:24:48 UTC  

Essentially that choosing the line which we call race is arbitrary.

2019-11-15 06:24:54 UTC  

We can cluster them

2019-11-15 06:25:01 UTC  

But humans are still picking the lines

2019-11-15 06:25:07 UTC  

and more arguments

2019-11-15 06:25:27 UTC  

He is right. i actually agree with that point.