and you must assume we know better

If he denies the evolutionary process, he is not worth your time.

Start there.

because we have had this conversation 50 times

a race is any population cluster above family and below species level

if you accept that such clusters exist, you are a race-realist

If you start with a definition, they will stalemate the argument

how?

You start with premises and process and create the definition

Don't go definition to premises and process

Start with the process and premises and go to the definition

I noticed this is the most effective strategy to convince people.

you're not gonna gaslight anyone to think these two are the same, like we can't tell

for fuck's sake

I want to vomit. Delete that

I haven't had the patience to try to convince someone of something in a while 😆

so I would be satisfied lecturing him about how he doesn't understand terms

this is why, if i am elected president, i will imprison all females. day 1

that is my promise to the american people

thank you

maybe when I'm healthier/calmer I will get back into trying it that way

He understood my terms and stalemated the conversation. He had a PH D and even did genetic research on cancer for crying out loud. He was biased.

I acknowledge that you may be right that that's more effective for that purpose

well what did he say?

what I find funny is how these people rationalize all of sub saharan africa

just all of it

Essentially that choosing the line which we call race is arbitrary.

We can cluster them

But humans are still picking the lines

and more arguments

He is right. i actually agree with that point.

yeah humans are still picking the lines so what?

I'm not gonna start to believe this is how japanese look

you can base them on different things though

Then, race is a social construct then. I agree with him there

you could have different parameters to get different level groups

all of life is a continuum

of course race is a social construct, but so is specie..

He brought that up too

That evolution is constant

I swear, the more I thought about it, the more I realized these people think race is a magical term