he was literally just hung up on a term like a retard

probably didn't have a good grasp of the history of the word

like 40% of the anthropologists in the west believe in race, but like 80% of the rest of the world knows it's real

you are in the minority

learned in school it meant something it doesn't actually mean

If you start with the race concept, it inherently puts you on the defensive since he can just change the definition. I start with a process of evolution and develop a concept

the anthropologists who don't believe in race are cultural anthropologists

btw

what do you mean 'he can change the definition'

@Nerthulas I am talking about convincing race deniers, not winning. winning is easy. convincing is another thing

that's why you define your term

then lecture him on the meaning of the word 'race' and its history

I think he had valid responses.

there are no valid responses

lol

way more than 40% https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5299519/

not believing in race just happens to coincide perfectly with this equality bullshit.. it's magic!

i love these coincidences

I am a biology major. I know what you are talking about

I am not an idiot

But you won't convince anyone with this stale arguments

Instead, you turn the definition into a process

and premises

that's true

NO ONE here is gonna start believing race isn't real

the conversation can only go 1 way

and you must assume we know better

If he denies the evolutionary process, he is not worth your time.

Start there.

because we have had this conversation 50 times

a race is any population cluster above family and below species level

if you accept that such clusters exist, you are a race-realist

If you start with a definition, they will stalemate the argument

how?

You start with premises and process and create the definition

Don't go definition to premises and process

Start with the process and premises and go to the definition

I noticed this is the most effective strategy to convince people.

you're not gonna gaslight anyone to think these two are the same, like we can't tell

for fuck's sake

I want to vomit. Delete that