Message from @Nerthulas

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2019-11-15 06:15:40 UTC  

Hector he was a race-denier?

2019-11-15 06:15:40 UTC  

I don't bother defending them because they aren't useful when debating someone that is competent.

2019-11-15 06:15:42 UTC  

yes

2019-11-15 06:15:51 UTC  

just define your terms and you'll be fine

2019-11-15 06:15:54 UTC  

they are useful

2019-11-15 06:15:55 UTC  

tbh

2019-11-15 06:16:04 UTC  

the PhD doesn't know what he's talking about

2019-11-15 06:16:14 UTC  

Well, I tried that and did not go anywhere in convincing him

2019-11-15 06:16:22 UTC  

tell him that a race is merely a genetic cluster

2019-11-15 06:16:37 UTC  

When I started bottom up, I got somewhere and got him to give ground

2019-11-15 06:16:40 UTC  

if you didn't convince him then you failed

2019-11-15 06:16:41 UTC  

differences in groups have been known for thousands of years

2019-11-15 06:16:45 UTC  

this is nothing new..

2019-11-15 06:16:55 UTC  

he was literally just hung up on a term like a retard

2019-11-15 06:17:15 UTC  

probably didn't have a good grasp of the history of the word

2019-11-15 06:17:19 UTC  

like 40% of the anthropologists in the west believe in race, but like 80% of the rest of the world knows it's real

2019-11-15 06:17:25 UTC  

you are in the minority

2019-11-15 06:17:26 UTC  

learned in school it meant something it doesn't actually mean

2019-11-15 06:17:33 UTC  

If you start with the race concept, it inherently puts you on the defensive since he can just change the definition. I start with a process of evolution and develop a concept

2019-11-15 06:17:42 UTC  

the anthropologists who don't believe in race are cultural anthropologists

2019-11-15 06:17:44 UTC  

btw

2019-11-15 06:18:01 UTC  

what do you mean 'he can change the definition'

2019-11-15 06:18:03 UTC  

@Nerthulas I am talking about convincing race deniers, not winning. winning is easy. convincing is another thing

2019-11-15 06:18:06 UTC  

that's why you define your term

2019-11-15 06:18:19 UTC  

then lecture him on the meaning of the word 'race' and its history

2019-11-15 06:18:21 UTC  

I think he had valid responses.

2019-11-15 06:18:28 UTC  

there are no valid responses

2019-11-15 06:18:31 UTC  

lol

2019-11-15 06:18:34 UTC  
2019-11-15 06:18:38 UTC  

not believing in race just happens to coincide perfectly with this equality bullshit.. it's magic!

2019-11-15 06:18:49 UTC  

i love these coincidences

2019-11-15 06:18:50 UTC  

I am a biology major. I know what you are talking about

2019-11-15 06:18:55 UTC  

I am not an idiot

2019-11-15 06:19:15 UTC  

But you won't convince anyone with this stale arguments

2019-11-15 06:19:30 UTC  

Instead, you turn the definition into a process

2019-11-15 06:19:32 UTC  

and premises

2019-11-15 06:19:45 UTC  

that's true

2019-11-15 06:19:52 UTC  

NO ONE here is gonna start believing race isn't real

2019-11-15 06:19:57 UTC  

the conversation can only go 1 way

2019-11-15 06:20:01 UTC  

and you must assume we know better

2019-11-15 06:20:04 UTC  

If he denies the evolutionary process, he is not worth your time.