Message from @Nerthulas
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people are physical
I debated a molecular genetist who was mexican. And I did not make progress until I went from the gene pool to race
different races are physical
races are subspecies
they are real
what do you mean Hector
did you get that backwards?
the different groups LOOK different, they have different CLUSTERS of frequency of genes, they ACT differently, they SOUND different, they PERFORM different, the brain is different, the size, the size/ ratio of parts, they have different strengths and weaknesses on IQ tests.
This is universal wherever they are.
you mean from race to gene pool?
"not different"
@Nerthulas . Ethnicity refers to clusters of people who have common culture traits that they distinguish from those of other
people.
because these people like to play games with terms that they don't understand
I start with the evolutionary progress and differentiate a tribe or nation and move bottom up.
Ethnicity is the same word as Race, one is Greek and one is English
The guy I was debating had a ph d in molecular genetics.
denying race is racist..
I mean, all you ever hear from latinos is la raza this, and la raza that..
so, saying race doesn't exist is racist against latinos
the words are sometimes used in different ways
natio means ethnic
pretending race isn't real is pretending you think these evolved in norway

I don't bother defending them because they aren't useful when debating someone that is competent.
yes
just define your terms and you'll be fine
they are useful
tbh
the PhD doesn't know what he's talking about
Well, I tried that and did not go anywhere in convincing him
tell him that a race is merely a genetic cluster
When I started bottom up, I got somewhere and got him to give ground
if you didn't convince him then you failed
differences in groups have been known for thousands of years
this is nothing new..
he was literally just hung up on a term like a retard
probably didn't have a good grasp of the history of the word
like 40% of the anthropologists in the west believe in race, but like 80% of the rest of the world knows it's real
you are in the minority
learned in school it meant something it doesn't actually mean
If you start with the race concept, it inherently puts you on the defensive since he can just change the definition. I start with a process of evolution and develop a concept
the anthropologists who don't believe in race are cultural anthropologists
btw
