and living standard is shite

So nope, @Deleted User , Orban's programs are not helping.

ur wrong

Hoppe was right perhaps

10 years he is in the leadership, often more than 2/3 of the seats

@Deleted User Stats are speaking for themselves

cant force ur way just coercing everyone

you are arrogant

Also mind you Orban had been in power since almost 90, as the leader of Fidesz.

He was always part of elite, and since 2002 while went opposition the most strongest party was after MSZP.

@Deleted User I am not ignorant. I live in reality.

And I know what happening in my country,

tide turned in 1980

why

Yep. You see there is a sharp increase after war, there were a period of time abortion was banned

Called Ratko-korszak

He was the one doing the population/medical policies of the time.

That is the Hungarian "boomer" generation.

Shifted around mid 80s.

Or earlier. I see 75?

So good question. I think it has some similar reason why boomers had less people.

After WWII there had been more kids everywhere.

of course I know about gender quotas..

And you see some drop around the same time elsewhere too.

And nope. It was an Eastern Block country

So ignore women quotas

That had been there since after the War 😛

In fact in teh 50s there had been push to women to take traditional male roles.

So you can't explain the drop with feminism.

What are you guys talking about?

Hungarian birth rate.

ah

You´re hungarian?

Yep

How are things up there?

Depends on who you ask. If you are close to the party it is good.

I see.

hungary is the only country in europe that actually is doing decent

Essentially it is a one party system, with strong centralisation in every aspect.

in terms of all this shit