Message from @KarasuKafka
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This is a withdrawal agreement
Well DUP is not directly against a deal but against any deal that will have a different status of Northern Ireland and rest of UK
its delusional if britbongs think they wont get a deal that treats them like a province
Which realistically almost every deal would do.
they will be punished for daring to want to rule themselves
The old deal broke up the uk into mainland uk and northern island as an Eu customs zone
@Muad'Dib Not really (only) about that.
It is known that trade deals takes long, often decades of arguing.
And EU known as a harsh dealer.
do they want free trade
So if hard Brexit happens they have nothing to worry about anymore about being as harsh as in their usual trade deals.
Nope. Free trade is not god for EU
The Eu wants to protect its fledgling trade - the uk leaving will take away the second biggest contributor and the 2nd and only nuclear power in Europe leaving France with that honour
Military matters arent really important for the EU
NATO takes care of that
Which Britbongs are staying in regardless
The EU has wanted an army of its own since 10 years ago (only just revealed in the last 4)
So if they offer a country outside a free trade without the usual models (Aka Norway for example, or Turkey), they won't do it.
@Rick Turpin That fledling trade at the moment still the strongest trade zone.
Will change after UK leaves, but will be important (for a while at least)
NATO isn’t always going to be there
One of the campaign point of Brexiteers that they do not want an unified command.
Its thers for now
@Rick Turpin That is why they are pushing and this liks with Ukraine too.
The EU Globalists want an EU army
But they dont have any
Erdogan is blackmailing the EU into joining, I can sympathize with Brexit for wanting to get the fuck out while they still could
And cant do shit yet anyway
So breaking the international law and not acting as US on the treaty one signed, Eu pushed forward this plan of EU army.
Gl pushing an army
EU structure is not about free trade but common market.
Actually the opposite. Erdogan drove further away Turkey from joining and he prides himself as such.
Euros are too complacent of having fuck all military spending
@Muad'Dib I take no moral standpoint on here. Brexit have some other underlying issues aside of Eu though, more to do with teh 4 nations.
I must have been thinking about the threats of unleashing the "refugees"
Turkey wanted to join but EU wasn’t too impressed at the end and turkey has had a shakey human rights record -
And UK political structure itself.
@Muad'Dib Yes, but that was about economical gains, and not joining.
They wanted EU to chip in extra support to keep teh refugee camps
So Turkey is already in EU trade zone, as in they can trade freely.