Message from @KarasuKafka

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2019-12-05 10:13:56 UTC  

you wont get a deal

2019-12-05 10:13:56 UTC  

Only DUP and brexit party want a no deal

2019-12-05 10:14:13 UTC  

The deal is not even about trade - that comes next

2019-12-05 10:14:23 UTC  

This is a withdrawal agreement

2019-12-05 10:14:33 UTC  

Well DUP is not directly against a deal but against any deal that will have a different status of Northern Ireland and rest of UK

2019-12-05 10:14:40 UTC  

its delusional if britbongs think they wont get a deal that treats them like a province

2019-12-05 10:14:56 UTC  

Which realistically almost every deal would do.

2019-12-05 10:14:57 UTC  

they will be punished for daring to want to rule themselves

2019-12-05 10:15:16 UTC  

The old deal broke up the uk into mainland uk and northern island as an Eu customs zone

2019-12-05 10:15:25 UTC  

@Muad'Dib Not really (only) about that.

2019-12-05 10:15:47 UTC  

It is known that trade deals takes long, often decades of arguing.

2019-12-05 10:15:54 UTC  

And EU known as a harsh dealer.

2019-12-05 10:15:59 UTC  

do they want free trade

2019-12-05 10:16:32 UTC  

So if hard Brexit happens they have nothing to worry about anymore about being as harsh as in their usual trade deals.

2019-12-05 10:16:45 UTC  

Nope. Free trade is not god for EU

2019-12-05 10:17:21 UTC  

The Eu wants to protect its fledgling trade - the uk leaving will take away the second biggest contributor and the 2nd and only nuclear power in Europe leaving France with that honour

2019-12-05 10:17:58 UTC  

Military matters arent really important for the EU

2019-12-05 10:18:06 UTC  

NATO takes care of that

2019-12-05 10:18:27 UTC  

Which Britbongs are staying in regardless

2019-12-05 10:18:38 UTC  

The EU has wanted an army of its own since 10 years ago (only just revealed in the last 4)

2019-12-05 10:18:54 UTC  

So if they offer a country outside a free trade without the usual models (Aka Norway for example, or Turkey), they won't do it.

2019-12-05 10:18:54 UTC  

@Rick Turpin That fledling trade at the moment still the strongest trade zone.

2019-12-05 10:18:54 UTC  

Will change after UK leaves, but will be important (for a while at least)

2019-12-05 10:18:55 UTC  

@Chawosaurian EU just wnated to do their own army.

2019-12-05 10:18:56 UTC  

NATO isn’t always going to be there

2019-12-05 10:19:03 UTC  

One of the campaign point of Brexiteers that they do not want an unified command.

2019-12-05 10:19:07 UTC  

Its thers for now

2019-12-05 10:19:20 UTC  

@Rick Turpin That is why they are pushing and this liks with Ukraine too.

2019-12-05 10:19:31 UTC  

The EU Globalists want an EU army

2019-12-05 10:19:37 UTC  

But they dont have any

2019-12-05 10:19:38 UTC  

Erdogan is blackmailing the EU into joining, I can sympathize with Brexit for wanting to get the fuck out while they still could

2019-12-05 10:19:44 UTC  

And cant do shit yet anyway

2019-12-05 10:19:52 UTC  

So breaking the international law and not acting as US on the treaty one signed, Eu pushed forward this plan of EU army.

2019-12-05 10:20:04 UTC  

Gl pushing an army

2019-12-05 10:20:17 UTC  

EU structure is not about free trade but common market.

2019-12-05 10:20:24 UTC  

Actually the opposite. Erdogan drove further away Turkey from joining and he prides himself as such.

2019-12-05 10:20:34 UTC  

Euros are too complacent of having fuck all military spending

2019-12-05 10:21:04 UTC  

@Muad'Dib I take no moral standpoint on here. Brexit have some other underlying issues aside of Eu though, more to do with teh 4 nations.

2019-12-05 10:21:10 UTC  

I must have been thinking about the threats of unleashing the "refugees"

2019-12-05 10:21:16 UTC  

Turkey wanted to join but EU wasn’t too impressed at the end and turkey has had a shakey human rights record -

2019-12-05 10:21:17 UTC  

And UK political structure itself.