Message from @untergang

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2019-12-09 08:12:42 UTC  

We can have decentralized force

2019-12-09 08:12:48 UTC  

yeah

2019-12-09 08:12:49 UTC  

we can

2019-12-09 08:12:52 UTC  

Where each property owner is a locus of power

2019-12-09 08:12:54 UTC  

but you know who can't

2019-12-09 08:12:56 UTC  

Force can only be top down , no?
ie a monopoly

2019-12-09 08:13:00 UTC  

you know the problem in

2019-12-09 08:13:00 UTC  

Nope

2019-12-09 08:13:04 UTC  

the browns

2019-12-09 08:13:10 UTC  

That type of force will destroy

2019-12-09 08:13:27 UTC  

How else is will manifested

2019-12-09 08:13:29 UTC  

Whatever protection is provided by the state will become less and more expensive

2019-12-09 08:13:38 UTC  

Via struggle, through force

2019-12-09 08:13:47 UTC  

So

2019-12-09 08:14:11 UTC  

yeah

2019-12-09 08:14:14 UTC  

The property owners will use forcw when necessary to safeguard the integrity of their property and person

2019-12-09 08:14:14 UTC  

i see where that goes

2019-12-09 08:14:25 UTC  

and locals

2019-12-09 08:14:33 UTC  

neighboors

2019-12-09 08:14:45 UTC  

The laws of interaction

2019-12-09 08:14:48 UTC  

But who decides what property means

2019-12-09 08:14:53 UTC  

that's not anarchy though

2019-12-09 08:14:55 UTC  

Why can't I have a city block

2019-12-09 08:14:58 UTC  

that's order

2019-12-09 08:15:00 UTC  

Hoppe defines it

2019-12-09 08:15:05 UTC  

Its ordered anarchy

2019-12-09 08:15:05 UTC  

hoppe

2019-12-09 08:15:30 UTC  

What if I disregard hoppe

2019-12-09 08:15:30 UTC  

Hoppe and other paleolibertarians recognize that hierarchy is necesessary

2019-12-09 08:15:34 UTC  

that woudl only work in a purly white, non degenerate society

2019-12-09 08:15:34 UTC  

even in a free society

2019-12-09 08:15:48 UTC  

Hoppe considers degeneracy to stem from the state

2019-12-09 08:16:10 UTC  

As in the end, the state is the main culprit at shielding people from consequences

2019-12-09 08:16:13 UTC  

was he ingun?

2019-12-09 08:16:37 UTC  

and from preventing people from acting against degenerates using their property

2019-12-09 08:16:45 UTC  

Hoppe is kraut

2019-12-09 08:16:48 UTC  

Such as denying use of property

2019-12-09 08:16:53 UTC  

disreagrd hoppe, focus more on facism

2019-12-09 08:17:03 UTC  

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2019-12-09 08:17:30 UTC  

It will degenerate

2019-12-09 08:17:33 UTC  

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