Message from @Rogal Dorn

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2019-12-12 06:07:47 UTC  

If a quantum system were perfectly isolated, it would maintain coherence indefinitely, but it would be impossible to manipulate or investigate it. If it is not perfectly isolated, for example during a measurement, coherence is shared with the environment and appears to be lost with time; a process called quantum decoherence. As a result of this process, quantum behavior is apparently lost, just as energy appears to be lost by friction in classical mechanics.

2019-12-12 06:08:32 UTC  

In my opinion, the distinction between philosophy and science is kind useless because they are just forms of knowledge. In my opinion, we integrate philosophy into science. The philosophy which we don't integrate into science is what we call philosophy.

2019-12-12 06:08:44 UTC  

If the world was perfect, it would be perfect

2019-12-12 06:08:50 UTC  

But it isn't so it is not

2019-12-12 06:08:55 UTC  

We only make that distinction to distinguish our method.

2019-12-12 06:08:56 UTC  

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2019-12-12 06:09:49 UTC  

Decoherence has been used to understand the collapse of the wave function in quantum mechanics. It provides an explanation for apparent wave-function collapse, as the quantum nature of the system "leaks" into the environment. That is, components of the wave function are decoupled from a coherent system and acquire phases from their immediate surroundings. A total superposition of the global or universal wavefunction still exists (and remains coherent at the global level). Decoherence provides an explanation for the transition of the system to a mixture of states that seem to correspond to those states observers perceive. Moreover, our observation tells us that this mixture looks like a proper quantum ensemble in a measurement situation, as we observe that measurements lead to the "realization" of precisely one state in the "ensemble".

2019-12-12 06:10:25 UTC  

Quantum nature, woah, let me check if there's a chapter on that.

2019-12-12 06:10:50 UTC  

This is why I lean towards the many worlds interpretation

2019-12-12 06:11:00 UTC  

too bad it can't explain the collapse :)

2019-12-12 06:11:09 UTC  

decoherence explains why observers see an illusion of a collapse as they become entangled

2019-12-12 06:11:24 UTC  

the wavefunction never truly collapses, thats why i say many worlds makes more sense

2019-12-12 06:11:28 UTC  

or consistent histories

2019-12-12 06:11:49 UTC  

@glamp in a way, he is saying there is an alternative theory.

2019-12-12 06:11:59 UTC  

it cant explain something that doesnt happen... wavefunction collapse is an illusion only true from an entangled observers perspective

2019-12-12 06:12:34 UTC  

I plan on reading a chapter a day.

2019-12-12 06:12:40 UTC  

@Rogal Dorn what book are you reading?

2019-12-12 06:13:09 UTC  

"A First Introduction to Quantum Physics" by Pieter Kok. It's a textbook.

2019-12-12 06:13:19 UTC  

I got a pdf though.

2019-12-12 06:13:21 UTC  

oh

2019-12-12 06:13:26 UTC  

yes, that's a good one

2019-12-12 06:13:37 UTC  

Kok

2019-12-12 06:13:40 UTC  

sorry

2019-12-12 06:13:47 UTC  

is it good

2019-12-12 06:13:48 UTC  

I want to understand it as well as an undergrad on the subject would understand it.

2019-12-12 06:14:10 UTC  

All QM interpretations are untestable as they make the same predictions but certain interpretations may be favored for reasons such as Occam’s razor. I prefer many worlds because it has one less postulate, the postulate I’d wave function collapse

2019-12-12 06:14:25 UTC  

you should know a little bit of calculus, some linear algebra, and a bit about complex numbers though

2019-12-12 06:14:33 UTC  

before you read it

2019-12-12 06:14:53 UTC  

I know some calculus. I might know some linear algebra from a fresh stats class.

2019-12-12 06:15:07 UTC  

Feynman explains it about as well as it possibly can be with minimal math in his QED series

2019-12-12 06:15:14 UTC  

I haven't looked at calculus in over 20 years

2019-12-12 06:15:28 UTC  

algebra is everywhere though

2019-12-12 06:15:35 UTC  

Susskind also has a great series, “The theoretical minimum”

2019-12-12 06:15:48 UTC  

I do calculus all the time for fun

2019-12-12 06:15:54 UTC  

calculus is the science of zooming in on shit until they appear straight/flat

2019-12-12 06:15:59 UTC  

i was good at math until that

2019-12-12 06:16:00 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/654567111766835203/image0.jpg

2019-12-12 06:16:07 UTC  

@glamp what’s the answer here

2019-12-12 06:16:11 UTC  

you know what, i think it was cause of a women teacher