Message from @Apollyon

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2019-12-23 19:51:41 UTC  

@Emperor of Atlantis

yes, if people care about other people ..
people are social and there are no morals
other than our relationships to other people
and maybe some personal promise to ourselves.

2019-12-23 19:51:44 UTC  

U agree with this?

2019-12-23 19:51:48 UTC  

sometimes the reasons aren't any good

2019-12-23 19:51:53 UTC  

and it collapses

2019-12-23 19:51:53 UTC  

Kek

2019-12-23 19:51:57 UTC  

No

2019-12-23 19:52:00 UTC  

because people easily see through the illusion

2019-12-23 19:52:07 UTC  

Does Divine morals stand on reason

2019-12-23 19:52:09 UTC  

also God isn't real <:mlady:389497741769703424>

2019-12-23 19:52:15 UTC  

Irrelevebt

2019-12-23 19:52:21 UTC  

Does it stand on reason

2019-12-23 19:52:23 UTC  

Or God

2019-12-23 19:52:25 UTC  

yes, but we pretend they stand on a Divine authority

2019-12-23 19:52:29 UTC  

Yes

2019-12-23 19:52:34 UTC  

Thats the support

2019-12-23 19:52:36 UTC  

which they don't and it is obvious when we actually see a religion collapse

2019-12-23 19:52:36 UTC  

@Emperor of Atlantis

I totally agree. morals are created by reason.
People who scream *think about the children*
would just put us back in the stone age.
Moralism is bad because it would put us back on the stone age.

2019-12-23 19:52:42 UTC  

they didnt stand on reason

2019-12-23 19:52:51 UTC  

they do, we just pretend that they don't

2019-12-23 19:52:55 UTC  

When the religion collapses the morals go down with them

2019-12-23 19:52:57 UTC  

Is reason a part of God's nature

2019-12-23 19:53:02 UTC  

and usually some mentally insane cleric came up with bad reasons

2019-12-23 19:53:03 UTC  

It doesnt matter if its pretend

2019-12-23 19:53:09 UTC  

and the morals don't hold their water

2019-12-23 19:53:11 UTC  

they collapse

2019-12-23 19:53:18 UTC  

The reason is embedded in divinity

2019-12-23 19:53:19 UTC  

Can something unreasonable be divine

2019-12-23 19:53:27 UTC  

yes, which is a false claim

2019-12-23 19:53:28 UTC  

It doesnt matter what is

2019-12-23 19:53:30 UTC  

@Chawosaurian

He said, reason can be both *smart* or just BS.
People always have some ability to create or change their morality
by thinking.

2019-12-23 19:53:34 UTC  

a trick for mentally handicapped people

2019-12-23 19:53:36 UTC  

what matters is what seems

2019-12-23 19:53:49 UTC  

Are things what they seem to be

2019-12-23 19:53:50 UTC  

it is like the man behind the curtain

2019-12-23 19:54:00 UTC  

once you figure it out it loses its divine power

2019-12-23 19:54:06 UTC  

@virtue that's literally a moral stance mate

2019-12-23 19:54:15 UTC  

Thats when it loses the divine support

2019-12-23 19:54:23 UTC  

"it's good that people with similar morals can live together"

2019-12-23 19:54:27 UTC  

but it is easy to do though

2019-12-23 19:54:28 UTC  

And falls on reason but it doesnt derive its support from there

2019-12-23 19:54:39 UTC  

So it just disintegrates