Message from @Apollyon
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@Emperor of Atlantis
yes, if people care about other people ..
people are social and there are no morals
other than our relationships to other people
and maybe some personal promise to ourselves.
U agree with this?
sometimes the reasons aren't any good
and it collapses
Kek
No
because people easily see through the illusion
Does Divine morals stand on reason
also God isn't real <:mlady:389497741769703424>
Irrelevebt
Does it stand on reason
Or God
yes, but we pretend they stand on a Divine authority
Yes
Thats the support
which they don't and it is obvious when we actually see a religion collapse
@Emperor of Atlantis
I totally agree. morals are created by reason.
People who scream *think about the children*
would just put us back in the stone age.
Moralism is bad because it would put us back on the stone age.
they didnt stand on reason
they do, we just pretend that they don't
When the religion collapses the morals go down with them
and usually some mentally insane cleric came up with bad reasons
It doesnt matter if its pretend
and the morals don't hold their water
they collapse
The reason is embedded in divinity
Can something unreasonable be divine
yes, which is a false claim
It doesnt matter what is
@Chawosaurian
He said, reason can be both *smart* or just BS.
People always have some ability to create or change their morality
by thinking.
a trick for mentally handicapped people
what matters is what seems
Are things what they seem to be
it is like the man behind the curtain
once you figure it out it loses its divine power
@virtue that's literally a moral stance mate
Thats when it loses the divine support
"it's good that people with similar morals can live together"
but it is easy to do though
And falls on reason but it doesnt derive its support from there
So it just disintegrates