Message from @Apollyon

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2019-12-23 19:52:25 UTC  

yes, but we pretend they stand on a Divine authority

2019-12-23 19:52:29 UTC  

Yes

2019-12-23 19:52:34 UTC  

Thats the support

2019-12-23 19:52:36 UTC  

which they don't and it is obvious when we actually see a religion collapse

2019-12-23 19:52:36 UTC  

@Emperor of Atlantis

I totally agree. morals are created by reason.
People who scream *think about the children*
would just put us back in the stone age.
Moralism is bad because it would put us back on the stone age.

2019-12-23 19:52:42 UTC  

they didnt stand on reason

2019-12-23 19:52:51 UTC  

they do, we just pretend that they don't

2019-12-23 19:52:55 UTC  

When the religion collapses the morals go down with them

2019-12-23 19:52:57 UTC  

Is reason a part of God's nature

2019-12-23 19:53:02 UTC  

and usually some mentally insane cleric came up with bad reasons

2019-12-23 19:53:03 UTC  

It doesnt matter if its pretend

2019-12-23 19:53:09 UTC  

and the morals don't hold their water

2019-12-23 19:53:11 UTC  

they collapse

2019-12-23 19:53:18 UTC  

The reason is embedded in divinity

2019-12-23 19:53:19 UTC  

Can something unreasonable be divine

2019-12-23 19:53:27 UTC  

yes, which is a false claim

2019-12-23 19:53:28 UTC  

It doesnt matter what is

2019-12-23 19:53:30 UTC  

@Chawosaurian

He said, reason can be both *smart* or just BS.
People always have some ability to create or change their morality
by thinking.

2019-12-23 19:53:34 UTC  

a trick for mentally handicapped people

2019-12-23 19:53:36 UTC  

what matters is what seems

2019-12-23 19:53:49 UTC  

Are things what they seem to be

2019-12-23 19:53:50 UTC  

it is like the man behind the curtain

2019-12-23 19:54:00 UTC  

once you figure it out it loses its divine power

2019-12-23 19:54:06 UTC  

@virtue that's literally a moral stance mate

2019-12-23 19:54:15 UTC  

Thats when it loses the divine support

2019-12-23 19:54:23 UTC  

"it's good that people with similar morals can live together"

2019-12-23 19:54:27 UTC  

but it is easy to do though

2019-12-23 19:54:28 UTC  

And falls on reason but it doesnt derive its support from there

2019-12-23 19:54:39 UTC  

So it just disintegrates

2019-12-23 19:54:43 UTC  

what if I had a religion where if you follow all the rules, all your loved ones get resurrected

2019-12-23 19:54:50 UTC  

and then what if no one ever gets resurrected?

2019-12-23 19:54:54 UTC  

@Chawosaurian

do you mean your reason is inspired by religion?
Or do you demand that every smart person
should believe in god or else their reason is flawed.
...remember rationalism..

2019-12-23 19:55:00 UTC  

isn't it easy to figure out that it was a lie?

2019-12-23 19:55:15 UTC  

The greatest evil is belief in good and evil.

2019-12-23 19:55:20 UTC  

and then people question the morals

2019-12-23 19:55:31 UTC  

we're literally animals

2019-12-23 19:55:31 UTC  

Fuguer with his low IQ interventions as per usual

2019-12-23 19:55:36 UTC  

the reason is encased in religion

2019-12-23 19:55:37 UTC  

if I ate you there is no evil there

2019-12-23 19:55:42 UTC  

I just done fucking ate a dude

2019-12-23 19:55:45 UTC  

Its like reinforced