No

What is the basis for simple mechanisms

Before God made morals

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Morals never stood on themselves

all secular morals try to stand on reason

some morality stands on the race

For something to be true it must follow the laws of logic

all morals stand on reason

@Emperor of Atlantis

yes, if people care about other people ..
people are social and there are no morals
other than our relationships to other people
and maybe some personal promise to ourselves.

U agree with this?

sometimes the reasons aren't any good

and it collapses

Kek

No

because people easily see through the illusion

Does Divine morals stand on reason

also God isn't real <:mlady:389497741769703424>

Irrelevebt

Does it stand on reason

Or God

yes, but we pretend they stand on a Divine authority

Yes

Thats the support

which they don't and it is obvious when we actually see a religion collapse

@Emperor of Atlantis

I totally agree. morals are created by reason.
People who scream *think about the children*
would just put us back in the stone age.
Moralism is bad because it would put us back on the stone age.

they didnt stand on reason

they do, we just pretend that they don't

When the religion collapses the morals go down with them

Is reason a part of God's nature

and usually some mentally insane cleric came up with bad reasons

It doesnt matter if its pretend

and the morals don't hold their water

they collapse

The reason is embedded in divinity

Can something unreasonable be divine

yes, which is a false claim

It doesnt matter what is

@Chawosaurian

He said, reason can be both *smart* or just BS.
People always have some ability to create or change their morality
by thinking.

a trick for mentally handicapped people

what matters is what seems