Message from @Androvich
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I don't think china takes that view
I don't think the events in HK wouuld precede war anyway, there doesn't seem to be any real conflict, just an alien authoritarian regime trying to influence social paramaters in a territory they once held.
real conflict usually arises when two or more groups with disparate values either try, or are forced to live together.
that isn't what's happening in HK
China is nominally M-L of course they pay their due optics to humanism
we just don't get that perspective much
since our propaganda washes it all away
they do the old '3rd worldism we aren't as exploitative as white people we're like you plus we're socialist' thing
I disagree, they actively try to obfuscate the many huumanitarian problems they cause
'what we're doing in africa is cooperative'
sure they do
they also try to present a humanitarian face to the rest of the world
yeah but chinese citizens honestly believe that china is a force for global peace. almost like the muslim idea of taking over for the greater good. the chinese government knows better and has increased their intel infrastructure into the south china sea and have hectic radars to collect international info for their strategic purposes. i just wonder if there will be a point when they creep too far towards australia, or if australia will just cuck.
I don't think they really buy it though, it's tokenism from their side.
chinese students I speak to in UK do not believe their country is a force for global peace
none of them have expressed anything like that
I've spoken to maybe a hundred in the past few years
my town has a high population of chinese students attending high prestige private schools
they are fascinating, btw
chinese people appear to be deeply schizophrenic, depending mainly on wether they live outside of china or not
native chinese
due to social pressures?
yes, almost entirely due to the massive propaganda pressure they have lived under for decades/generations
The ones who travel the world and see everything is much more complex than the government says it is are practically escapees. they've seen the world, they've basically become americanised or westernised at least.
yes
they can *think*
but the borg still exists.
lol
because the native chinese have been engineered to think exactly how the state wants
yeah, there are plenty of things online about chinese views about their own government. they basically refuse to question it.
it's not just a problem of lack of free speech, but also proscribed speech/language
which is why I try to question people who redefine language
they are attempting to redefine thought
that's why i brought up hong kong. that conflict would have been a means for war back in the day... but now thanks to global information transfer the chinese government has to play it cool. if they attack, their own people awaken.
and the infighting starts.
which is way more expensive and troublesome than anything else
their population is HUGE
I don't know, I suspect historically the HK peoplle would have just ejected the malcontents
no need to start a war, just clean house