Message from @Fifmut
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What yt channel
Oh YouTube
Yes him
He's like, a super wholesome and genuinely magnetic German engineer who likes playing with slingshots and crossbows.
It's so weird, too, because he has this bizarre mixture of autistic detachment from what others would assume are harmful implications of weaponry, but he's also charismatic. Very mechanically focused.
@Hector the relatives, they ***do*** have the gene, or some of them have the gene, but it is not expressed as the self-sacrificing trait?
is that correct?
he's the guy that tried to get the Youtube Creators union off the ground
@Nerthulas yes
@Nerthulas why are wasting time with group selection? No group selectionist has ever given a satisfying answer to your questions because there isn't one. It's an illusion, emerging from the many replicators and selection happening on the gene level. Proponents like to parade it around with cases where it appears intuitive, but ignore other cases where it can't explain what's happening, or is outright contradicted
give scenario
there must be a satisfying answer if the theory was so prominent
at least the idea of inclusive fitness
DO YOU KNOW HOW YOU GOT ANY OF THE FEATURE YOU HAVE?
Like, how whites evolved from blacks?
oh yeah, hes the crossbow guy
looking at the debate, I don't see that its really about that point, its more about other things, which I assume means that my question has already been answered
thought I recognized him
people believe the silliest of ideas, and group selection appears sound at first glance, of course it was prominent
doesnt make it valid
what debate
@Hector why don't you tell us, and tell us how group selection is integral to that development?
@Nerthulas group selection does not cause the arise of those genes. It is caused by those genes already existing.
That guy is like the nicest person ever that exposed a fucking scam of an armour being sold and some dickhead journalists wrote a hit piece on him.
But white skin developed by natural selection
not by group selection.
okay, that's what I thought, which is why I am confused as to why you bring this, and other tangents like this up
I know that natural selection is what causes populations to be different...
The genes that make group selection possible must be present before it begins
And now that there is no more natural selection, we lose phenotypes like genius and soldiers
Whites didn't evolve from blacks
Out of Africa is a lie
these self sacrificing phenotypes
you don't need to start talking about modernity and lack of selection now or anything like this, this is about the ***theory itself***
ofc there are implications there and we can look at that, but what I'm concerned with is the theory itself
as in, not contextualized by humans
or even any animal, it can just be a mathematical abstraction
I think I'm getting it now though