Message from @Emperor of Atlantis
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I doubt it, half the shit these generals say about Hitler is wrong or they were wrong
I know it sounds fanatical on my part, but they're wrong
Except this could be confirmed if true
what strategy you talking about anyway?
because there should be records of his orders and his political goals
I need to watch the video
youtube research
to be fair the guy is reading from a book
I just find the expression funny
Basically, it's a memoir from one of the generals describing how one of the difficulties with winning the war with the soviets was that Hitler didn't adopt a strategy to effectively recruit russian dissident populations against stalin, even though many were available. The assistance they did get from them seemed to be more incidental, rather than due to a specific policy or campaign, and this really could have helped them.
I *think* it was a general, iirc
I never heard of any Gehlen, probably very irrelevant
Lots of these areas they conquered were full of people who hated stalin, and there were even large groups of soldiers who just surrendered to the germans because of how much they hated stalin
I could try to tackle this
the thing with WW2 is that no research is total, we lack so many documents
but the most basic reason is, arming a tonne of Russkies isn't a solution
that would probably create more problems than it would solve
also there was never an organized attempt to resist USSR or to rebel
and at least when it comes to the Ukrainians
the specific kind of documents that would be useful to verify this would have to do with what was the proposed political and propaganda program the germans were instructed to use on the russians, their policy regarding russian defectors, and records and details of the events of towns they conquered and troops who surrendered to them
this wasn't even a thing where they would have to arm all of them, at least some of them were already armed
I know of some of those
but we don't have all of it
also policy changed as the war went on
maybe they finally adopted it but too late?
I can go over it tomorrow I guess
at the point donovan stops in the video, it seems like there's still a lot more to cover
but it sounds like they still were doing this aggressively, even as winter fell
I found a Lt General Gehlen, this guy sounds like a queer
is it because his name sounds like "gay"?
no, he was one of the conspirators that tried to blow up Hitler and was a Western asset after the war
I am assuming it is the same guy?
his service record is bad, seems to have just been in charge of intel and espionage
but it must have been really bad considering German intel got btfo during the war
I´m waiting too.
If this is something Hitler was actually doing, can you blame him for conspiring to blow him up? Assuming this isn't just a cover. If it's a legit position, something that he believes is true, I could see someone justifying that while not being a traitor to Germany.
I don't think that was his reasoning for trying to kill Hitler
the officers were autistic and generally they just disliked Nazism and claimed that the Nazis were responsible for losing the war
and were so stupid they thought if they killed Hitler that the Brits would make peace with them
Well, if you find documentation on whether or not this strategy was pursued, and any reflection on how accurate it was that lots of russians were receptive to this strategy, let me know. It might help if you watch the whole vid, so you know what specific claims are being made, and what is needed to be confirmed or refuted.