Message from @virtue

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2020-01-27 20:16:13 UTC  

important difference

2020-01-27 20:16:14 UTC  
2020-01-27 20:16:14 UTC  

Brb again my client is phoning

2020-01-27 20:16:36 UTC  

First of all Aristotle continued the teachings of Plato in many ways and he was one of the first people to distinguish being and potentiality. Plato was extremely influenced by his teacher Socrates who was the first denialer

2020-01-27 20:16:45 UTC  

..we need a new generation of philosophers..
with an aim to REALITY

2020-01-27 20:16:47 UTC  

of order

2020-01-27 20:17:17 UTC  

got lucky, seems like I picked the right Scruton

2020-01-27 20:17:19 UTC  

And who was the starter of decadence in the west

2020-01-27 20:17:27 UTC  

Aristotles saved Platos ideas.. its he logical conclusion.

2020-01-27 20:17:52 UTC  

Plato couldn't explain basic iron smithing..
Aristotles could

2020-01-27 20:17:58 UTC  

agree, without German people fail at German ideas, horribly

2020-01-27 20:18:04 UTC  

Aristotle saved Plato, yes

2020-01-27 20:18:09 UTC  

"eeeh muh science and evolushion - philo useless cuz i have no clue about how to strcuture my worldviews"

2020-01-27 20:18:10 UTC  

look socialist failures all around the globe

2020-01-27 20:18:11 UTC  

without Aristotle then Plato would be a meme

2020-01-27 20:18:29 UTC  

Aristoteles explained how to create and organize
do usefull things with real things...

2020-01-27 20:18:29 UTC  

makes total sense what scruton says

2020-01-27 20:19:00 UTC  

@virtue Implying that this wasn't common to human nature in general

2020-01-27 20:19:05 UTC  

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2020-01-27 20:19:14 UTC  

Plato could only explain moral philosophy.
Plato even avoided practical or technical issues

2020-01-27 20:19:16 UTC  

your introspective worldviews come from how well-of your ancestors were in having them

2020-01-27 20:19:24 UTC  

the only things that Aristotle was good for was his contributions to epistomology and the law of noncontradiction

2020-01-27 20:19:52 UTC  

it's not by reason that you v. asians v. africans (even high iq africans) come to completely different conclusions about ideal organizations

2020-01-27 20:19:56 UTC  

I mean, how huge the gap is, when a language is changed, is easy demonstrate by anglos love nietzsche in all his shiny endless stupidity and idiotic Calender Motti people hurl around as if they were of any value (which they are not)

2020-01-27 20:20:16 UTC  

(if it were by reason it would all be the same? and to the extent that it can you are no longer expressing preferences but methodology)

2020-01-27 20:20:27 UTC  

@The Living Paradox

It doesn't exactly, it wasnt common to human nature..
Humans are limited by common sense,
They need some way of organising or generalising
all human knowledge, philosophy

2020-01-27 20:20:29 UTC  

Without philosophy you can't have any justification for anything you believe in

2020-01-27 20:20:43 UTC  

specifically for race

2020-01-27 20:20:50 UTC  

...philosophy is about organising and generalise all human knowledge.

2020-01-27 20:21:20 UTC  

you don't need justification to trial&error, you just do it, society and law emerges, and whatever conflict resolution emerges and amounts to precedent is efficient. and gets ingrained in your "genetic morals" for lack of a better term

2020-01-27 20:21:43 UTC  

@The Living Paradox

at some point, every society needs to have an intellectual justification
for the neccessary things they are doing.
Common sense only works on small societies

2020-01-27 20:21:44 UTC  

Philosophy is about getting to conclusions of how knowledge is even possible @virtue

2020-01-27 20:22:04 UTC  

thats a very vague definition you gave there

2020-01-27 20:22:55 UTC  

what the sovereign (high) class tells the lower and what works in that communication is entirely dependant on the stock and this domesticated (genetically trained) moral. you're ugh, privileged, and don't even see it. fucking wypipo ugh

2020-01-27 20:23:15 UTC  

theres germanic morals v. french v. anglo v. so many

2020-01-27 20:23:19 UTC  

none of it rational

2020-01-27 20:23:33 UTC  

@The Living Paradox

so basically you say that philosophy is *knowledge about all knowledge*,
If you say its about understanding how knowledge is possible
and understanding how we can get knowledge.
Then basically,*philosophy is a general model for all knowledge and
the methods to use any and all knowledge*

2020-01-27 20:23:55 UTC  

rather it is rational only in the sense that enough people feel the same enough to abide by it

2020-01-27 20:23:58 UTC  
2020-01-27 20:24:03 UTC  

@Ozpin88 Trial and error is barely scratching the surface of level wisdom. You can make a mistake 1000 times and still not get to conclusions without fundamentally questioning the reasoning behind your actions