sometimes you got to show gratitude

enough mgtow shit

make peace with reality

truff is shit?

if it's the truth, then why just complain about it?

@TuerSchlossEnteiser A grateful leech is still a leech

> if it's the truth, then why just complain about it?
@stem
You have to articulate how the current reality diverges from the ideal reality if you wish to move forward

https://youtu.be/r8uhcRK1QKU?t=82

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/469890082296561704/672594683259781121/649054590817402882.gif

maybe change your idea of ideal reality

ask where it came from

maybe it came from a similar place to many of the other problems of the modern world

this has emote potential

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbx4gvH_O1c

white Femoid after she sees bbc

Where what came from? @stem

these ideas of how we're all just supposed to be nice to each other and things will work out

and then when that doesn't work, people are shocked

some people

and never give up on their idea of how things should have been

and give up on the world as it is

I get that we have to be pragmatic in how we pick our ideals

And that we have to make the best of a bad situation

But it's still necessary to point out that the current social order is dysgenic

just the idea that women are supposed to be "nice" or something

you should never even have expected women to be "nice"

Women aren't nice

whatever that is

Or horrible

How would you make it eugenic? Encouraging people with desirable traits to breed? Prenatal screening for hereditary illnesses like autism and down syndrome? Sterilization?

that doesn't mean that women are simply "mean"

@stem the romantic ideal that is being promoted doesn't take into account the difference between the sexes

men aren't always "nice" either

> Sterilization?
@Big Ben
Financially incentivising disabled people to stop passing their misery to their offspring

have sex

it's just like there's this idea that women are breaking some rule that they are supposed to be obeying

and so then men complain

> men aren't always "nice" either
@stem
Sure
And they don't have to be
Neither do women
They have to be responsible though

they are expecting too much

women do the same, of course

> they are expecting too much
@stem OK that's where we disagree