it's always telling when someones like "israel has to a right to exist because of the holocaust" when, as vaush is quoted as saying in the same comment, it could've existed anywhere else. it's a good talking point that exposes the ethnocentrism embedded in zionism. it's "their land," no other land would do, and interestingly, it's a mentality that secular zionists carry. even more interestingly, the first person i heard this talking point from was sam harris
