Message from @stem

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2020-02-06 16:24:32 UTC  

using it as an opportunity to gain status or even money

2020-02-06 16:25:00 UTC  

they naturally become leaders

2020-02-06 16:25:50 UTC  

They want protection and everyone who doesnt protect them is evil

2020-02-06 16:27:17 UTC  

They are not anti status qou, they are against social order

2020-02-06 16:28:04 UTC  

again, they are against a variety of things

2020-02-06 16:28:10 UTC  

yes, social order

2020-02-06 16:28:23 UTC  

They protect a status qou which allow them to beheave as beasts

2020-02-06 16:29:07 UTC  

what beasts

2020-02-06 16:29:25 UTC  

They conform and defend chaotic society

2020-02-06 16:29:50 UTC  

liberalism is not entirely chaotic

2020-02-06 16:29:55 UTC  

and they are compatible with liberalism

2020-02-06 16:30:00 UTC  

they are liberal

2020-02-06 16:30:26 UTC  

socialist want to be beasts at everyones expense

2020-02-06 16:30:27 UTC  

but liberalism ultimately leaves a path to tear down all non-voluntary social structures

2020-02-06 16:30:35 UTC  

and that's why liberalism works so well with capitalism

2020-02-06 16:30:48 UTC  

capitalism, at least ostensibly, is all about voluntary transactions

2020-02-06 16:31:16 UTC  

so while the "leftists" tear down vestiges of the previous social orders, capitalism fills the void

2020-02-06 16:31:25 UTC  

or the void is just left a void

2020-02-06 16:31:33 UTC  

Socialism is chaos

2020-02-06 16:32:00 UTC  

socialism is not well defined enough to make that statement

2020-02-06 16:32:14 UTC  

Socialists in soviet didnt think it sås socialist

2020-02-06 16:32:16 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/675015918379728931/EQDGOM1WAAAH_6W.jpg

2020-02-06 16:32:39 UTC  

Socialism is will defined

2020-02-06 16:33:12 UTC  

i think we can distinguish between equalist socialism and non-equalist socialism

2020-02-06 16:33:26 UTC  

There are many definitions before and efter marx

2020-02-06 16:33:54 UTC  

at least those two

2020-02-06 16:34:06 UTC  

and then further subdivisions may be possible

2020-02-06 16:34:31 UTC  

equalist socialism is the chaotic one

2020-02-06 16:34:51 UTC  

All the versions that works,stops being socialist

2020-02-06 16:35:33 UTC  

Socdem,Only works because its capitalist

2020-02-06 16:35:57 UTC  

define socialism

2020-02-06 16:36:54 UTC  

Soviet union threw planned Economy away as soon as Stalin died,and Stalin used some capitalist details

2020-02-06 16:37:27 UTC  

Wrong

2020-02-06 16:38:08 UTC  

collectivist egalitarianism based om economical materialism

2020-02-06 16:39:00 UTC  

What a sophisticated name for looters

2020-02-06 16:40:15 UTC  

I am biiig gay

2020-02-06 16:40:28 UTC  

Taxes

2020-02-06 16:40:56 UTC  

socialism does not require egalitarianism

2020-02-06 16:41:08 UTC  

Its an outdated understanding of 17th century science mixed with an desire that all men should be the same and have access to plenty

2020-02-06 16:41:16 UTC  

its the goal