so while the "leftists" tear down vestiges of the previous social orders, capitalism fills the void

or the void is just left a void

Socialism is chaos

socialism is not well defined enough to make that statement

Socialists in soviet didnt think it sås socialist

Socialism is will defined

i think we can distinguish between equalist socialism and non-equalist socialism

There are many definitions before and efter marx

at least those two

and then further subdivisions may be possible

equalist socialism is the chaotic one

All the versions that works,stops being socialist

Socdem,Only works because its capitalist

define socialism

Soviet union threw planned Economy away as soon as Stalin died,and Stalin used some capitalist details

Wrong

collectivist egalitarianism based om economical materialism

What a sophisticated name for looters

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Taxes

socialism does not require egalitarianism

Its an outdated understanding of 17th century science mixed with an desire that all men should be the same and have access to plenty

its the goal

i don't think that "national socialism" is a contradiction

Egalitarianism is the core defining trait

they obviously were not egalitarian

maybe for communism

that just wants to make the citizens in the nation equal even at the cost of everyone else

of course, this partly depends on just what words we feel like using for what

it shrinks the scope of equality

Natsocs are not socialists, they where hur they changed

but i try to use words as they have been used and in a way that makes them useful

Socialism is not groupism

socialists been trying to keep natsoc off their brand forever

well, if we want to get down to the word roots

it really is just about groups

we live in a society

Se lie sometime,we dont need to drown normies in accuracy

Societies are not socialism,

but accepting the "conservative" characterization of reality limits your ability to discuss ideas