Message from @Skellington
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just got done with tactics. which gives you argument strategies when talking about religion with people
@Skellington what was the name of the book?
its called tactics
By Koukl?
yes
Now that I think about it I don't have any interesting book to recommend or at least one that I read recently. I need to fix that.
Read the culture of critique
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The entire series?
no
What did you think of Tactics? I read the summary. What was the most valuable take away that you learned?
i think i might be a little bit to advanced for tactics
its a great book to give to normies
like a really great book to start out
but when i was reading it it kind of told me what i already knew. but its always good to cement the basics and it had some insight. nothing big i could tell you but you know bits and pieces
arguments i had not really thought of
so yea its a good book
I assumed it would probably be a little basic for you. Like you said though, working on fundamental dialectics and rhetoric will always help. Heard you talking about Pathos, Logos, Ethos the other day and how you figured out Logos doesn't work on 'them'. That's an important evolution.
Logos does work you just need to use it in tandem with the other appeals. different appeals take different priority I think
And pointing out logical inconsistencies also helps
But if you use pure logos
It's unlikely to flip them
If you debunk one of their claims so hard that even they admit that it's false
It dosent change their core values
Values are not built upon logic or facts
Facts are interpreted through values and logic keeps those interpretations consistent
That's all true
Maybe you can help me figure out how to reach the willfully ignorant. The people who maybe already know they're wrong but are too stubborn to be willing to change.
@Skellington Is there any hope for those that willingly choose the lie, because they want to believe the lie?
AfD is cucked, just heard them go after jeremy corbyn for being antisemitic
still better than the other parties but meh
Not really
Maybe an emotional appeal could work but probably not
It's Germany. Even if they wanted they could not say he is right in that regard.
I would never expect them to defend it, just dont attack someone for it, its the racist sexist homophobe tactic of the left, these are not conservative values
but i guess they want to get rid of their reputation that some of their based members gave them
I wonder why blacks are immune to gay subversion?
Low iq scholars of common Sense