@ChuuniMage Dude this is the filthput. I ust wanted to make a point about how there is nothing wrong about theology

There isn't anything wrong with theology. I'm just skeptical of theology that ventures too hard into strict, narrow definitions that move further away from the simplicity of the faith that makes it accessible to both laypeople and those who research deeply.

If I need to double-think about anything that's happening in the liturgy or the sacraments, something's wrong.

Giving infants communion is a red herring. You're just bringing that up because you can't answer the fact that you've been confronted with the fact that the Orthodox do something that you have just said Catholics are wrong to do

Also, there are Orthodox communities that don't give communion to infants

So, again, if you're going to get on Catholics for doing something, at least pick something that is absolutely NEVER done amongst the Orthodox

I now understand what is meant by "The Devil is in the details"

@Daniil Eucharist is one of the reason why I attract into the Orthodox and move to the Orthodox.

Perfect Eucharist = using both of host and chalice

What's your native language?

me?

Korean and Archbishop of Orthodox Church in Korea is Greek

But there is Korean deacons and priests as well and The divine liturgy perform as Korean

Yeah I was just wondering because I could tell you aren't a native Anglophone

I understood you perfectly but the grammar wasn't standard

https://orthodoxwiki.org/Ambrose_(Zographos)_of_Korea

Eminence the Most Reverend Metropolitan Ambrosios (Zographos) of Korea

*His Eminence

Got a recording of Korean liturgy?

I'd love to hear Chinese liturgy

tbh

Well, I haven't take the pic or record the divine liturgy. But My Singaporean friend who visited on September did

And I'm converting to Orthodox.
*inb4 some people might call convertodox

((((some people))))

Some of the greatest saints of the church have been converts

There's no shame in it, there's more honor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbYhvZ5cmeM

It's a smaller ~45 sec clip that's repeated across the vid

Is it in Manchuria?

I know the Russians built the Orthodox Church in Harbin

until Russians lose the power in Manchuria by Japanese

Beautiful

whomst else peeped this book

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9V3NR5S24g
Great doxology in Korean

I want to get it but I haven't

I listened to a short talk on it by some monk or priest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eK4dXrheW3o
Trisagion

@ChuuniMage , I noticed your comment on 'strict, narrow, definitions'. One thing to keep in mind in regard to Western theology is while we may approach things in a very scientific fashion, this does not mean that we do so to the exclusion of other theological traditions and it does not mean that we regard those traditions as heretical. In my experience (and so far, this has been bourne out in this conversation) the East is stricter and narrower because it rejects all Western theology and discipline outright whereas the West, while adhering to its own unique traditions that go back to apostles, still learns from the East. When we try to explain stuff, like how we do liturgy or matters of discipline (which are going to be different by nature, because cultural differences effect this), its not that we are rejecting other ways, its that we simply don't do it that way for very specific reasons. You claim to be opposed to 'strict, narrow definitions' when this entire conversation revolves around the fact that the West does something different from the East and rather than trying to understand the theological and disciplinary reasons behind it, you simply reject because its not the way you do it in the East/it comes from Rome, so it must be wrong. I

. I'm totally cool with trying to explain what we do and why we do it. And I'm totally cool with learning about the East and why the East does things the way it does, but if the only response is 'it's from the West, its heresy' or 'we do it this way, you're wrong' then you aren't really interested in understanding why we believe what we believe which means you're not interested in eventual reconciliation of the Church (in other words, if you always approach, RC with antagonism, don't expect us to take you and your point of view seriously), and that means that we're both wasting our time even talking to each other. With that said, I have adulting to do. So you won't hear from me further on this topic. I've beaten my head against the wall on this enough for one day.

Thanks for the response, I'll take what you've said into consideration and look to enter into the discussion in better faith on my end.

I would actually really enjoy having proper theological discussions, and don't want any wrong attitudes I have preventing an actual dialogue.

@Βασίλειος Θεοδόσιος wait you're Korean??