Message from @Βασίλειος Θεοδόσιος

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2018-11-16 23:03:57 UTC  

@aaron2509 That's a weak point to bring up, because orthodox at least give infants communion

2018-11-16 23:04:10 UTC  

That muddies the waters for that line of discussion

2018-11-16 23:05:18 UTC  

@Mozalbete ⳩ you could at least pretend to be interested in having a conversation with anyone other than yourself

2018-11-16 23:05:26 UTC  

it would make it easier for me to want to try to have one with you

2018-11-16 23:07:05 UTC  

@ChuuniMage Dude this is the filthput. I ust wanted to make a point about how there is nothing wrong about theology

2018-11-16 23:08:19 UTC  

There isn't anything wrong with theology. I'm just skeptical of theology that ventures too hard into strict, narrow definitions that move further away from the simplicity of the faith that makes it accessible to both laypeople and those who research deeply.

2018-11-16 23:08:49 UTC  

If I need to double-think about anything that's happening in the liturgy or the sacraments, something's wrong.

2018-11-16 23:14:11 UTC  

Giving infants communion is a red herring. You're just bringing that up because you can't answer the fact that you've been confronted with the fact that the Orthodox do something that you have just said Catholics are wrong to do

2018-11-16 23:14:38 UTC  

Also, there are Orthodox communities that don't give communion to infants

2018-11-16 23:15:22 UTC  

So, again, if you're going to get on Catholics for doing something, at least pick something that is absolutely NEVER done amongst the Orthodox

2018-11-16 23:47:18 UTC  

I now understand what is meant by "The Devil is in the details"

@Daniil Eucharist is one of the reason why I attract into the Orthodox and move to the Orthodox.

Perfect Eucharist = using both of host and chalice

2018-11-17 00:11:02 UTC  

What's your native language?

me?

Korean and Archbishop of Orthodox Church in Korea is Greek

But there is Korean deacons and priests as well and The divine liturgy perform as Korean

2018-11-17 00:14:43 UTC  

Yeah I was just wondering because I could tell you aren't a native Anglophone

2018-11-17 00:15:06 UTC  

I understood you perfectly but the grammar wasn't standard

https://orthodoxwiki.org/Ambrose_(Zographos)_of_Korea

Eminence the Most Reverend Metropolitan Ambrosios (Zographos) of Korea

*His Eminence

2018-11-17 00:18:21 UTC  

Got a recording of Korean liturgy?

2018-11-17 00:20:06 UTC  

I'd love to hear Chinese liturgy

2018-11-17 00:20:09 UTC  

tbh

Well, I haven't take the pic or record the divine liturgy. But My Singaporean friend who visited on September did

And I'm converting to Orthodox.
*inb4 some people might call convertodox

2018-11-17 00:21:01 UTC  

((((some people))))

2018-11-17 00:21:29 UTC  

Some of the greatest saints of the church have been converts

2018-11-17 00:21:43 UTC  

There's no shame in it, there's more honor

2018-11-17 00:25:29 UTC  

It's a smaller ~45 sec clip that's repeated across the vid

Is it in Manchuria?

I know the Russians built the Orthodox Church in Harbin

until Russians lose the power in Manchuria by Japanese

2018-11-17 00:26:23 UTC  

Beautiful

2018-11-17 00:26:51 UTC  

whomst else peeped this book

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/452069937305878530/513147974323404818/51MysLCx5CL.png

2018-11-17 00:27:31 UTC  

I want to get it but I haven't

2018-11-17 00:27:43 UTC  

I listened to a short talk on it by some monk or priest

2018-11-17 00:34:56 UTC  

@ChuuniMage , I noticed your comment on 'strict, narrow, definitions'. One thing to keep in mind in regard to Western theology is while we may approach things in a very scientific fashion, this does not mean that we do so to the exclusion of other theological traditions and it does not mean that we regard those traditions as heretical. In my experience (and so far, this has been bourne out in this conversation) the East is stricter and narrower because it rejects all Western theology and discipline outright whereas the West, while adhering to its own unique traditions that go back to apostles, still learns from the East. When we try to explain stuff, like how we do liturgy or matters of discipline (which are going to be different by nature, because cultural differences effect this), its not that we are rejecting other ways, its that we simply don't do it that way for very specific reasons. You claim to be opposed to 'strict, narrow definitions' when this entire conversation revolves around the fact that the West does something different from the East and rather than trying to understand the theological and disciplinary reasons behind it, you simply reject because its not the way you do it in the East/it comes from Rome, so it must be wrong. I