Message from @Quarantine_Zone

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2018-11-17 05:40:08 UTC  

But I wouldn't consult him on other matters

2018-11-17 05:40:31 UTC  

He's right-wing but only a moderate right-wing

2018-11-17 05:40:31 UTC  

I just know lolbertarians love JP

2018-11-17 05:41:04 UTC  

I'm not sure what he thinks of LGBT

2018-11-17 05:41:38 UTC  

But I think he tends to fall into the general conservative crowd, which can attract lolbertarians too

2018-11-17 05:42:05 UTC  

Ironically, Sargon of Akkad, who is Classical Liberal tends to push people to far-right

2018-11-17 05:42:19 UTC  

JP was actually the fish hook that I took that led me to orthodoxy

2018-11-17 05:42:23 UTC  

I think he's becoming more right-wing though over time

2018-11-17 05:42:24 UTC  

and now orthodoxy is my go-to reference

2018-11-17 05:42:35 UTC  

He does like EO

2018-11-17 05:42:55 UTC  

It was his stuff on symbolism and stories from a evolutionary psychology perspective that got me good

2018-11-17 05:42:56 UTC  

Does he?

2018-11-17 05:42:58 UTC  

But he can't seem to get over the unfortunate modernist position

2018-11-17 05:43:05 UTC  

I think that he wants to believe

2018-11-17 05:43:08 UTC  

but he's too attached to modernism

2018-11-17 05:43:12 UTC  

He does want to believe

2018-11-17 05:43:18 UTC  

But he struggles w/ miracles

2018-11-17 05:43:19 UTC  

He actually *knows* that miracles and weird shit happen

2018-11-17 05:43:27 UTC  

but doesn't want to admit he thinks they happen

2018-11-17 05:43:33 UTC  

he's gestured towards the possibility that they do

2018-11-17 05:43:35 UTC  

Yeah, but he can't explain them with science so....

2018-11-17 05:43:41 UTC  

Science is safe

2018-11-17 05:43:45 UTC  

He's good at science

2018-11-17 05:43:49 UTC  

and knows how it works

2018-11-17 05:43:55 UTC  

enough to see its shortcomings

2018-11-17 05:44:09 UTC  

Yeah, he is, but stuff like the resurrection are hard for him to grapple

2018-11-17 05:44:20 UTC  

That's pretty essential

2018-11-17 05:44:34 UTC  

implying the resurrection is easy for anyone to grapple with

2018-11-17 05:44:47 UTC  

If you don't believe the resurrection, then we need to become (((J3W5))) and restore the temple

2018-11-17 05:44:58 UTC  

I'm not saying I don't believe in the resurrection

2018-11-17 05:45:05 UTC  

I'm saying that it's not something that's trivial to understand

2018-11-17 05:45:14 UTC  

and he's trying to understand it

2018-11-17 05:45:21 UTC  

Oh, it's certainly impossible to grasp entirely

2018-11-17 05:45:42 UTC  

I think he approaches from modernism though and that's a stumbling block

2018-11-17 05:46:14 UTC  

I think a large part of that may be that he wants to be intelligible to the major audience of who's listening to him

2018-11-17 05:46:25 UTC  

because if he actually went full draditionalisd :DDD then he would be incomprehensible

2018-11-17 05:46:29 UTC  

to the majority

2018-11-17 05:46:44 UTC  

and he is actually appealing to the majority with what he's saying now and laying hooks to explore the more numinous and inexplicable parts of the faith

2018-11-17 05:47:15 UTC  

Yeah, but that has its downsides

2018-11-17 05:47:22 UTC  

early on he described himself as a radical traditionalist