The Virgin Mary protected the church in Russia. Your hypotheticals don’t mean anything in a world where God prevents such things from happening

You doubt God’s providence

russia has been ridden with communist, ridden with abortions now too. the govenrment is democratic and protects muslims among many other things.

I don't doubt God's providence. I just don't assume anything good has to enjoy a protective providence for eternity.

And yet we know the whole world will become Orthodox, that even our saints say Rome will be corrected.

Big surprise, orthodox saints talk fondly about orthodoxy.

They speak truth

Not that there are not many things to correct about rome in the wordly sense.

St. John of Kronstadat spoke of the clown masses and the liturgical reform of Vatican II

Way before it even happened

And the children of Fatima already heard of inner fights etc etc.

So how do you think to change society with the churches in turmoil?

Well, either some righteous leader will somehow rise to a position of power, be it in wordly rule or the Church, or chaos will reuslt in a disaster and good people will have to rebuild

Which leads us to fascism

Is that not hoping in God’s providence?

Yes, I hipe that god will bring us a great fascist dictator that will implant a monarchy

Gotta go. Bye, my autistic compadres.

But you yourself can’t determine how God chooses to implement anything

If you manage to rise to the top then it means God has chosen you.

If you dont, nor do you want to, it means God hasn't chosen you to lead. But this means your job is to follow

You risk failing and being considered rebellious

Sounds kind of like Christ

The occupation of what was Byzantium by the pagan Turks is to be seen as providential protection to avoid falling into joining in union with the West

So sometimes the ideal of a king is not yet ready

It may not be in God’s time

Like it or not catholics are our brothers in christ. Even if they're heretics

Cradle orthodox dont usually share the opinion on Catholics that converts have. We're much warmer to them

As a former Catholic, I have a hard time seeing that, but I do not hate them

You can be a former anything, the point is that you're former.

Your soul is absolutely different from a cradle Orthodox

ontologically only *the* Church is Christian and others are at best icons of the church
I might call a filioquist brother, but brother in Christ? Not exactly

Although I'll gang up on Protestants with him

I see a lot of dgenerate cradle Orthodox

So?

Very one dimensional of you to assume that all cradles are virtuous by the sole merit of being cradle

Yet you say my soul is different

Like I'm some foriegn body.

Yes you are

And the degenerate cradles are estranged bodies

Doesn't make you better than me

Not in the eyes of God, no