And paint

If I wanted an icon, I would just buy one lol

Fair enough

I'm pressed on cash though and I'd rather buy crosses, thurible, and candles before buying another icon

Our Lady of Sorrows

I really dislike the lifeless mouths of statues of Mary

I think that's a good one, actually.

The eyes are very good, but the mouth is kind of numb

How would you make the mouth better? If you can describe it.

I would make it have an actual expression of sorrow instead of being completely lifeless

Like, try to leave your mouth in a completely emotionaless state and it will look like that

reliquary bust of st Yrieix

I maintain that fashwave will never be a proper artform, but this channel seemed most appropriate to post my own.

It really depends on what you define art to be.

Technically art is just the Latin word for craft or trade

Which is why I try to call "artwork" aesthetic

Art is what conveys beauty

In one or another way

And is crafted, of course

I mean stuff like gunsmithing doesn't convey beauty

Nobody's stopping you from making engravings

lol

get me some Renaissance flair on my 12gauge

Shoot up schools like a sir

😍

If it doesn't convey beauty in some way I have no problems calling it non-art

It has merit, it has technique, but it is not art

but the words art or craft never meant anything about beauty 🤔

And as you tell us, there weren't even different words then, but there are now

So to get back to the original question, does fashwave have beauty?

because anglosaxon and latin weren't married yet

eh it can have a little bit

I would say so, in a certain way

Oh, the qualifications!

but it's nothing that will last as long as like the greek pagan statues

So a mark of beauty is longevity?

no

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but you can just tell if something is going to be long lived or not