Materialism is more in and of itself than the love of stuff.

I mean, I wouldn't consider myself one

It's a matter of priorities

When we say materialists, we aren't talking about the sort of people who rush to a Black Friday sale.

Technically we are but not for that reason tbh

To be a materialist in a, uh, less material sense, if you'll excuse the pun; is to deny or be ignorant of the metaphysical realm

And that is the case we are describing here.

Or just to prioritize the physical realm over the metaphysical

Well, yes, there is that, but I believe we're at a point where we have far surpassed a matter of mistaken priority.

This is what happens when you stop teaching the Greeks in school, smh.

The point should be objective, not deconstructivist, beauty when building a church. The pragmatist materialist view is whatever building is empty. The deconstructivist modernist archetecture comes from the materialist who deprioritizes the metaphysical to try to make a physical statement about their own metaphysics at the expense of the congregation for the indefinite period of it's existence.

The house of God should reflect the beauty of his presence in the best way we can, after all, you wouldn’t house a King in a square, same as you wouldn’t welcome him with an electric guitar, specially the King of Kings

Well, yes and no.

Ours is a King who rides a Colt, after all.

*However*.

You are correct, we are building something that is evocative of Heaven.

The Mass in and of itself is supposed to be a glimpse of Heaven.

I don't know if you were on the call when I discussed it.

But I was talking about the Anglo-Saxon architecture of English churches.

And if you ever find one, you'll notice one of two things.

I wouldn’t be surprised if someone justifies not kneeling to receive the Eucharist on humility after what you’ve said

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It either has:

a) Two Yew trees at the entrance.

b) The doors have a Saxon dogtooth pattern.

And yes, I have seen that before, too, it's a misinterpretation of Christ's humility.

Yes, because we build things based on our culture too

Yes, that's my point.

I’m a mutt but my guess is that

Very correct

Oh I like where you’re going with this

A lack of culture deprives of beauty

In the druidic practices of Britain, the Yew Trees were considered a gateway to another world, and in the Saxon Tradition, that is also what the Dogtooth pattern represents.

People literally believed that what was housed in the Church was not of this Earth.

Which is very much the case.

Yeah

Therefore lack of culture leads to an ever-growing distancing from both beauty and belief

Yeah, another reason to feel terrible, great

Hah.

Though it may not be in our lifetime, it shall one day return to us.

To you that is

Think of us as here to plant the trees so that children of our children may enjoy their shade.

You're in Mexico, yeah?