@NokiaLord Pope Francis has done no such thing.

And Sedes believe there hasn't been a valid Pope since before John XXIII.

@Based Chav he went against established Church teaching on the death penalty, which is related to morality and therefore infalible.

He didn't *change* anything.

He was being his usual vague self.

He has changed the catechism to reflect his views.

The Catechism is not a self-affirming document.

He wasn't speaking ex-Cathedra and he hasn't changed anything that is dogmatic.

Still a pussy move

As much as His Holiness *wishes* whatever he says goes, it doesn;t.

He can just be ignored until he becomes a saint.

Pope Francis can eat a cock

Probably already does tbh

Fucking eco fag

Becoming a saint doesn't make you a better person or worthy to listen to

I was being charitable in saying "all we have to do is wait for Francis to die".

I hope Pope Francis meets God soon.

He's supposed to guide the church, and when he misguides the faithful through this kind of poor leadership and whatnot then it's inexcusable

He says shit literally just to create confusion amongst the faithful

Whatever legalisms the church says about how we should pray for him and so on, it's not right for him to do wrong and not be reprimanded for it

And if you realise that, all you need to do is ignore him, Wrath.

Doesn't help that he's trying to schism us

Bunyip, Francis is far from the worst Pope that the Church has ever known, so if you can't deal with this, God knows what's going to happen when the smoke of Satan makes itself undeniably apparent

I don't know why people keep using this word

"confusion2

There is no "confusion"

It does not matter if he is the worst pope, because worse popes have had things done about them. I'm not worried for the future of the faith, more about the fact that Francis is leading a generation into error

There is just plain evil

Well yeah, that's kinda what I was getting at in a nicer more charitable way

No, he's just pandering to people already in error.

He's literally trying to schism the Church in America

He doesn't want people to convert others, he doesn't want to follow established doctrine.

Dude can literally go heck himself off a cliff for all I care

Whatever you want to say, as representative of the church he shouldn't be teaching as he does to honest faithful, leading them into error. We know that there is more to the faith than the pope, but he is supposed to be the shepherd to the flock, and when he misleads us or attempts to follow wayward sheep, he leads many others into disarray

Also. >Excommunicating hermit priests that protest gays and abortion because they spoke out against the Church. On Christmas Eve no less.

Can't excommunicate people who support abortion publicly though

To be fair, they did remove themselves from communion with Rome.

https://youtu.be/azJGSS_3W2w

@Based Chav Almost, but not always. Siri Thesis

This isn't the first time Bergoglio has condemned proselytism.

@Astro he has said at a dinner i believe with other faiths