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Faggots

So you don't think Francis is a heretic?

larpers

not...

not yet at least

But he said that the communists are the true Christians?

sedes are heretics

sspx are... acceptable

i feel the pain of the sedes but it is a means to no end

Francis said communists are the ones who think like Christians

there is no outcome for sedes

no magisterium no authority

No dicks

```Francis’ January 8, 2018 address to members of the Diplomatic Corps accredited to “the Holy See”:

“Among the human rights that I would also like to mention today is the right to freedom of thought, conscience and of religion, including the freedom to change religion. Sad to say, it is well-known that the right to religious freedom is often disregarded, and not infrequently religion becomes either an occasion for the ideological justification of new forms of extremism or a pretext for the social marginalization of believers…”```

L’ Osservatore Romano, January 12, 2018, p. 9.

```Pope Pius IX, Syllabus of Errors, # 78: “Hence in certain regions of Catholic name, it has been laudably sanctioned by law that men immigrating there be allowed to have public exercises of any form of worship of their own.” – Condemned.```

```Pope Pius IX, Quanta Cura (# 3), Dec. 8, 1864: “From which totally false idea of social government they do not fear to foster THAT ERRONEOUS OPINION, most fatal in its effects on the Catholic Church and the salvation of souls, called by Our predecessor, Gregory XVI, an insanity, NAMELY, THAT LIBERTY OF CONSCIENCE AND WORSHIP IS EACH MAN’S PERSONAL RIGHT, WHICH OUGHT TO BE LEGALLY PROCLAIMED AND ASSERTED IN EVERY RIGHTLY CONSTITUTED SOCIETY…”```

@Mihai How is he not a heretic?

Sedes are tolerated as long as they're not autistic to a greater degree than the rest of us, which I've observed to be a near statistical impossibility

As for Francis, he has neither spoken ex cathedra, nor altered church doctrine in any way

Voicing a shitty opinion doesn't make you a material heretic, it makes you a fucking retard

You don't need to speak ex cathedra to be a heretic

So, only people who speak ex cathedra can be heretics?

Obviously not

Nice strawman

Anyone who doesn't profess the Catholic faith is a heretic

Mystici Corporis Christi No. 22

We're talking about the pope here and his validity as pope

```22. Actually only those are to be included as members of the Church who have been baptized and profess the true faith, and who have not been so unfortunate as to separate themselves from the unity of the Body, or been excluded by legitimate authority for grave faults committed. ```

Yes?

Yes, so his opinion that communism's emphasis on communal integrity shows a Christian attitude does not make him an anti-pope

```15. It is absurd to imagine that he who is outside can command in the Church.```

It just means he's retarded, like a lot of clergy these days

No, it means he is non-Catholic

He doesn't hold the Catholic faith

He believes and teaches religious indifferentism

Therefore he is a heretic

A heretic is outside the church

One who is outside the church cannot govern within the church