And even when I do, I just usually leave

I'm like "I'm leaving now"

I’m arguing with one chap about Francisco Franco, and whether he acted reasonably within Christian teaching.

One thing that is troubling me is the war rapes committed by his army.

I can’t find a condemnation issued by him anywhere.

Let's be honest though...we're never going to be able to justify everything he did.

Just like how Maoists can't justify everything Mao did. Or Leninists. Or Nazi supporters. We can go on a long journey for that.

Just because no one is perfect

God, I have way too many liberal friends. Some who are SUPER liberal too. A few actual socialists and communists too.

I doubt most internet discussions are actually doing anything

Go talk to your friends on the left in real life, much more productive

That's usually what I do

They know where I stand

I just keep my mouth shut

I really doubt there was some high number of war rapes that needed to be addressed. That sounds like terrible propaganda

And even if there were, the Republicans were just as guilty

Didn't Franco get praised by the pope at the time?

Catholic morality condemns rape. So if Franco is praised by the pope for being a good Catholic i think that basically gives us an answer on what his opinion would have been on the matter of rape, wether he said it or not

he was a righteous person. It is obvious he despised degeneracy of that kind. Spain was a safe country during Francos regime, where peo0le had no fear while walking on the streets at night. That is what old people who lived back then told me

Damnit

Those bastards kicked me out of the group.

Probably better for your bloodpressure

But quite ironic they are so intolerant

Altough no surprise there of course

You must master the art of being smug so tyat they never have excuses for kicking you

My friends...I weep for my country https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/01/world/americas/mexico-election-andres-manuel-lopez-obrador.html

I am deeply scared for my family in Mexico. 😰

Can I write in spanish? It's more fast for me

"filling millions of mexicans with hope"

nice

@Darth_Australis - I don't speak perfect spanish but I can translate what I dont know

who's this guy btw?

never heard of him

@Reimov and millions more with terror and dread
He's bee running for a few years or so. He's a Proto-Marxist. Imagine the Ron Paul of the Left in Mexico and add a healthy dose of deceit, incompetence and replace Libertarianism with socialism

*Rough explanation

Now that's just F'ed up

why is NYT making it sound like his winning is a good ting

Oh I see, I'll try to put it in english: I'm starting to think that López Obrador will be the breaking point for México, that already is a country absolutly raped by narcos

thing*

Because it's a candidate that it's not in the two traditional partys: PRI and PAN

Parties*