Anyway goodnight it's 12:09am and I need to be up early

@Deleted User I don’t think I would say Berlin became the most virtuous

but it certainly was not as sexually degenerate in at least some respects

though results under the NSDAP were mixed

Is it a sin to fall asleep during mass? Asking for a friend.

It’s a sin to be a catholic

Lol jks

@Sean/Pippin (INACTIVE) Do you have brain damage? Why do you keep talking about FREEDUMBS when every democracy has a big fat book of things you can't do?

It seems you are an anarchist that wants to have no law. You say "without anarchy", but anything short of complete anarchy will fall unders your complaints about FRRRREEEEEDUUUUUUMBS

And what you say about free will is completely retarded. This has nothing to do with free will

You only have to check examples to see that while fascists and monarchies are able to uphold values, any other democratic monstrosity does not. So you can guess where you can shove your "political theory" written by some 30 years old democratic idiot. There is a reason why all those theories are theories: because they are theories, they do not exist in real life, they are the fantasies of some people. Monarchies have worked by many years. You can speculate about what qualities are important for a monarch, but in the end, whatever is done, must be authoritative.

Free will is not your freedom of consequence. Just like you can have free will to murder, we can have free will to punish you for it

Well aren't you condescending. You completely take up what I say wrong. I DON'T want anarchy. I want a governmental style like Plato's republic, but renewed to include an extended hierarchy and a judicial system. There's *limited* democracy, very limited but you don't elect any old toff to a position, in order to get a position in any governmental department you must be educated in that area. Also any governmental system can uphold values, it just depends how efficiently they can hold onto them and the consequences and ability to revert once it goes wrong. There is a reason I said go read aristotle, plato and augustine.

Don't assume what I say and don't be rude. If you act like that again you can expect a lack of response

Monarchical rule was brilliant for it's time but in the current age of technology and social standings there's no chance we could go back to something like that. You must be realistic

I stress again *you must be realistic*

That's why I'm going back to a renewal of platos republic. It's because it works and it's been implemented all over the world.

Also to answer your first question, fascism deprives liberty. Because the market is controlled by the government and it's a centralised government you don't have true *liberty*

And when I'm talking about freedom I'm also talking about freedom to practice virtue

If it's forced upon you, that's not true virtue.

Easen up ladies

Gosh mom you're so mean

I'm going to my room >:c

Freedom is pretty gay tbh

People shouldn't be free to do what they want

In terms of laws

somebody lock the door

People aren't completely free to do what they want?

You try stealing from a store

So you complain about "muh freedumbs", but you want yet another democracy where degenerate votes that it is illegal to say sodomy is perverse. I call you anarchist because you are, because your idol is liberalism, doing whatever you want.

I don't care about your pretentious theories. Go back to the real world and just observe what democracy leads to. Democracy can't uphold values because the majority is always perverse and will always choose vices. To get a position in any government you don't need anything, only to be a favorable candidate, be it because you promise daily orgies or because you are black and fulfill diversity quotas. I don't worry about lack of responses,k I am not going to take seriously someone who talks about how your theories are better than the proven to work systems, which have been virtuous for centuries.

That is being realistic: choosing what is proven to work instead of your theories that are proven wrong every time democracy descends further into degeneracy.

I want to deprive liberty, because I'm not an anarchist. True liberty is anarchy, you hypocrite. I have pointed this out but you refuse to address a single point, pretentious theoretical half-man. If it's forced upon you, there is not reason why it isn't virtue, that is one of the most retarded assumptions I have ever heard. I guess that forbidding eating babies alive isn't true virtue, since it is forced by the laws.

I'm not a liberal and I'm not an anarchist. And you misinterpret what I say. I don't want "yet another democracy" I have laid out my views which are similar to Plato's republic. And you don't care about my "pretentious theories" oh really? The foundation for all societies? You don't know politics. You're just like Plato, democracy had failed therefore instead of thinking completely rationally and coming up with political theories to replace it you get angry and lash out without proper logical reasoning

I'm done arguing with you, you don't understand politics and you don't understand God's gift of free will.

We fight against sin and we outlaw sin but in the end we shouldn't control peoples thoughts

You say "I'm not a liberal", just like people say "I'm catholic" while defending abortion and sodomy

But I'm done. I'm done you are helpless, no more arguements from me

You have laid out a bunch of contradictory retardations that idolize LE FREEDUMBS

I am a missionary and dedicating my life to God don't you dare even think of calling me watery.

You are ahuge retard

A hypocrite

You have no love in you

Sorry, but you are not going to move me